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Updated January 10, 2024·
The ASUS TUF Gaming F17 is more suitable for gaming and intensive engineering tasks due to its dedicated Nvidia RTX 3050 Ti graphics card, but at 5.73 pounds and with a shorter battery life, it is less portable. On the other hand, the Framework Laptop 13 (2023) is extremely portable at only 2.95 pounds and offers a longer battery life, making it ideal for general use and travel. It has a higher resolution display with better color reproduction but uses integrated Intel graphics, which limits its ability for intensive 3D tasks or heavy gaming. Both are priced similarly, so consider what's more important: performance for demanding applications or mobility and screen quality for everyday use. Give Feedback
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Advantages of the ASUS TUF Gaming F17
- The ASUS TUF Gaming F17 has no clear advantages over the Framework Laptop 13 (2023).
Advantages of the Framework Laptop 13 (2023)
- Good for engineering and design
- Good for software development
- Good overall display quality
- Very good portability
- Good battery life
- Very good speakers
- Very good keyboard
Key differences
Software Development
6.7
7.6
6.2/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.8/10
8.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2256 x 1504
7.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
8.5/10
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) is good for software development, while the ASUS TUF Gaming F17 is only fair.
PerfectRec’s Software Development Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for software developers.
Screen Quality
6.9
7.4
17.3in
SIZE
13.5in
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2256 x 1504
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
144Hz
REFRESH RATE
60Hz
264.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
472.0 nits
The Framework Laptop 13 has a better screen than the ASUS TUF Gaming F17 for general use, engineering and design, content creation, and software development.
The ASUS TUF Gaming F17 offers a decent display with adequate resolution and brightness for day-to-day tasks, but its color range may not be wide enough for precise engineering and design work. The Framework Laptop 13, with its high-resolution display and wider color gamut, provides sharp visuals and more accurate color reproduction, making it suitable for detailed engineering and design applications. However, both laptops fall short for high-end gaming and 3D modeling due to their lower refresh rates, which can result in less smooth visuals during fast-paced scenes or intensive graphical tasks.
Battery
4.5 Hours
7.5 Hours
The ASUS TUF Gaming F17 has 4.5 hours of battery life. The Framework Laptop 13 has 7.5 hours of battery life.
Battery life estimate is based on a mix of common use patterns. More portable and higher performing laptops tend to have less battery life.
Portability
Fair
Very Good
17.3in
SIZE
13.5in
5.7 lbs
WEIGHT
2.9 lbs
0.9in
THICKNESS
0.6in
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) has very good portability, while the ASUS TUF Gaming F17 has only fair portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.
Build Quality
7.2
7.8
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) and ASUS TUF Gaming F17 both have good build quality, though the Framework Laptop 13 (2023) has somewhat better build quality.
PerfectRec’s Build Quality Score incorporates case materials, display and keyboard flex, hinge quality, and overall reliability.
Cost
$1,000
$1,079
$400
$600
$800
$1,000
$1,200
$1,400
$1,600
The ASUS TUF Gaming F17 has a price of $1,000 and the Framework Laptop 13 (2023) costs $1,079.
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Key similarities
General Use
7.1
7.5
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2256 x 1504
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
264.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
472.0 nits
4.5 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
7.5 Hours
7.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
8.5/10
6.4/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
8.8/10
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) and ASUS TUF Gaming F17 are both good for general use.
The Asus TUF Gaming F17, with a larger screen and higher performance graphics, offers an immersive experience for gaming and visually demanding tasks but falls short in portability and battery life compared to the Framework Laptop 13 (2023), which boasts a more portable form factor and longer battery life, making it better suited for on-the-go use and general purposes. Additionally, the Framework Laptop's higher screen resolution and color space coverage indicate a superior screen quality, contributing to its better evaluation for general use.
Gaming and AI
6.6
6.3
5.2/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
3.7/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2256 x 1504
144Hz
REFRESH RATE
60Hz
Yes
SUPPORTS DLSS
No
No
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
No
7.5/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
7.5/10
The ASUS TUF Gaming F17 and Framework Laptop 13 (2023) are both only fair for gaming and AI.
The ASUS TUF Gaming F17 offers a discrete Nvidia RTX 3050 Ti graphics card and a screen refresh rate of 144Hz favorable for smoother gaming, while the Framework Laptop 13 (2023) has an integrated Intel Iris Xe GPU and a lower 60Hz screen refresh rate, suggesting fewer frames per second which is less optimal for fast-paced gaming and 3D applications.
Engineering and Design
6.9
7.3
6.2/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.8/10
5.2/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
3.7/10
8.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
Although they have very similar scores, PerfectRec considers Framework Laptop 13 (2023) to be good for engineering and design, while the ASUS TUF Gaming F17 is only fair.
The ASUS TUF Gaming F17 is equipped with a capable multi-core processor and a dedicated Nvidia GPU, which enhances its ability to handle demanding engineering software and multitasking, but with a larger, heavier form factor affecting portability.
Content Creation
7.1
7.5
6.2/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.8/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2256 x 1504
8.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) and ASUS TUF Gaming F17 are both good for content creation.
PerfectRec’s Content Creation Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for photo editing, video editing and other content creation tasks.
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How the ASUS TUF Gaming F17 and the Framework Laptop 13 (2023) compare to other laptops
Spec Comparison
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| ASUS TUF Gaming F17 | Framework Laptop 13 (2023) |
GENERAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | |||
$1,000 | $1,079 | ||
Release Date | |||
Release Date | May 1, 2022 | May 1, 2023 | |
Overall Dimensions | |||
Overall Dimensions | 15.7'' x 10.6'' x 0.91'' | 11.7'' x 9'' x 0.62'' | |
Weight | |||
Weight | 5.73 lbs | 2.95 lbs | |
Width | |||
Width | 15.71" | 11.7" | |
Depth | |||
Depth | 10.59" | 9.01" | |
INTERNAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Processor | |||
Processor | Intel i5-11400H | Intel i5-1340P | |
RAM | |||
RAM | 8 GB | 8 GB | |
DDR Memory Version | |||
DDR Memory Version | 4 | 4 | |
RAM Slots | |||
RAM Slots | 2 | 2 | |
Storage | |||
Storage | 512 GB | 256 GB | |
BATTERY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Battery Life | |||
Battery Life | 4.5 Hours | 7.5 Hours | |
Battery Capacity | |||
Battery Capacity | 48 Wh | 55 Wh | |
SCREEN | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Diagonal Size | |||
Diagonal Size | 17.3" | 13.5" | |
Display Technology | |||
Display Technology | IPS | IPS | |
Resolution | |||
Resolution | 1920 x 1080 | 2256 x 1504 | |
Refresh Rate | |||
Refresh Rate | 144Hz | 60Hz | |
Display Brightness | |||
Display Brightness | 264 nits | 472 nits | |
RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Build Quality Score | |||
Build Quality Score | 7.2/10 | 7.8/10 | |
Portability Score | |||
Portability Score | 6.4/10 | 8.8/10 | |
Gaming Laptop Appearance | |||
Gaming Laptop Appearance | Yes | No | |
Premium Business Laptop | |||
Premium Business Laptop | No | No | |
Fan Noise Score | |||
Fan Noise Score | 7.5/10 | 7.5/10 | |
HARDWARE FEATURES | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Keyboard Quality Score | |||
Keyboard Quality Score | 7/10 | 8.5/10 | |
Speaker Quality Score | |||
Speaker Quality Score | 7.5/10 | 8/10 | |
Webcam | |||
Webcam | 720p | 1080p | |
Fingerprint Reader | |||
Fingerprint Reader | No | Yes | |
Backlit Keyboard | |||
Backlit Keyboard | Yes | Yes | |
Number Pad | |||
Number Pad | Yes | No | |
CONNECTIVITY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
USB Type-A | |||
USB Type-A | 3 | 1 | |
USB-C ports | |||
USB-C ports | 1 | 2 | |
USB-C Charging | |||
USB-C Charging | No | Yes | |
Display Outputs | |||
Display Outputs | 2 | 2 | |
Thunderbolt Version | |||
Thunderbolt Version | N/A | 4 | |
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Christian Hintze | April 2022
"One of the Asus TUF Gaming F17’s highlights is without a doubt its excellent gaming performance. The fact that Asus configured the RTX 3060 GPU for its specified maximum of 140 W is became immediately noticeable in our benchmarks. For a 17-inch notebook the F17 also offers a very long battery life, which makes it somewhat portable. On the flip side is the display. It may be saved by its good overall contrast ratio, but its overall brightness is simply too low, and its response times are too slow for a gaming device. The F17’s successor needs to improve upon this."
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Scott Gilbertson | July 2023
"If you’re thinking of investing in your first Framework, now is the time. The kinks and rough edges have all been smoothed out and this is a very nice machine with a bright, upgradable future. The only reason I can think of to wait is the AMD model, which I’ll be sure to test as soon as I can get my hands on one."
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About ASUS
ASUS, a Taiwanese electronics brand, is one of the largest personal computer vendor by market share. The majority of their laptops are targeted towards personal use or gaming. Their most popular product lines include the budget-friendly VivoBook, more premium ZenBook, and their TUF and ROG gaming laptops, the latter of which has a reputation for excellent gaming performance.
About Framework
Framework is a new American laptop manufacturer, specializing in modular and repairable laptops with the goals of promoting longevity and reducing electronic waste. They are a strong proponent of the right to repair movement. Framework laptops have replaceable RAM, storage, ports, keyboards, display bezels, mainboards, and more, making them a great choice for repairability-oriented individuals.
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