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Updated January 10, 2024·

The ASUS TUF Gaming F15 is less expensive and offers good performance for general use, 3D rendering, machine learning, and engineering, with a solid battery life making it suitable for portable use. It also has a high refresh rate and full HD resolution but a less powerful CPU and GPU compared to the MSI option. The MSI Raider GE78, while more costly, boasts higher specs with a more powerful processor, twice the storage and RAM, superior graphics, a bigger and higher resolution display, and improved scores in all mentioned performance areas. It also has a slightly better battery life but is heavier, making it less portable. If high performance for heavy tasks is a priority and you don't mind the extra weight and cost, the MSI may suit you better, but for a balance of performance, portability, and price, the ASUS is a strong option. Give Feedback

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Advantages of the ASUS TUF Gaming F15
  • Good portability
Advantages of the MSI Raider GE78
  • Very good for general use
  • Excellent for engineering and design
  • Best in class for gaming and AI
  • Very good for software development
  • Very good for content creation
  • Very good overall display quality
  • Very good overall build quality
  • Good battery life
  • Best in class speakers
  • Best in class keyboard

Key differences

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General Use

7.6
TUF Gaming F15
Raider GE78
8.7
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
257.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
384.0 nits
5.0 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
6.0 Hours
7.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
9.5/10
7.1/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
5.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for general use, while the ASUS TUF Gaming F15 is good.

Gaming and AI

8.0
TUF Gaming F15
Raider GE78
9.5
8.9/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
9.9/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
144Hz
REFRESH RATE
240Hz
Yes
SUPPORTS DLSS
Yes
Yes
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
Yes
6.7/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
6.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is best in class for gaming and AI, while the ASUS TUF Gaming F15 is very good.

Engineering and Design

8.2
TUF Gaming F15
Raider GE78
9.4
9.1/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
8.9/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
9.9/10
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
The MSI Raider GE78 is excellent for engineering and design, while the ASUS TUF Gaming F15 is very good.

Content Creation

7.7
TUF Gaming F15
Raider GE78
8.8
9.1/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for content creation, while the ASUS TUF Gaming F15 is good.

Software Development

7.3
TUF Gaming F15
Raider GE78
8.5
9.1/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
7.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
9.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for software development, while the ASUS TUF Gaming F15 is good.

Screen Quality

6.9
TUF Gaming F15
Raider GE78
8.6
15.6in
SIZE
17.3in
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
144Hz
REFRESH RATE
240Hz
257.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
384.0 nits
The MSI Raider GE78 has a better screen than the ASUS TUF Gaming F15 for general use, gaming and AI, engineering and design, content creation, and software development.

Portability

Good
TUF Gaming F15
Raider GE78
Poor
15.6in
SIZE
17.3in
4.8 lbs
WEIGHT
6.8 lbs
0.9in
THICKNESS
1.1in
The ASUS TUF Gaming F15 has good portability, while the MSI Raider GE78 has poor portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.

Build Quality

7.2
TUF Gaming F15
Raider GE78
8.5
The MSI Raider GE78 has very good build quality, while the ASUS TUF Gaming F15 has good build quality.

Cost

$1,399
TUF Gaming F15
Raider GE78
$3,799
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$500

$1,000

$1,500

$2,000

$2,500

$3,000

$3,500

$4,000

The ASUS TUF Gaming F15 has a price of $1,399 and the MSI Raider GE78 costs $3,799.
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Key similarities

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Battery

5.0 Hours
TUF Gaming F15
Raider GE78
6.0 Hours
The ASUS TUF Gaming F15 has 5 hours of battery life. The MSI Raider GE78 has 6 hours of battery life.

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How the ASUS TUF Gaming F15 and the MSI Raider GE78 compare to other laptops

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Spec Comparison

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ASUS TUF Gaming F15MSI Raider GE78
ASUS TUF Gaming F15MSI Raider GE78

GENERAL

Price
$1,399
$3,799
Release Date
May 1, 2023May 1, 2023
Overall Dimensions
13.9'' x 9.9'' x 0.93''15'' x 11.7'' x 1.13''
Weight
4.85 lbs6.83 lbs
Width
13.94"14.97"
Depth
9.88"11.73"

INTERNAL

Processor
Intel i7-12700HIntel i9-13980HX
RAM
16 GB32 GB
DDR Memory Version
45
RAM Slots
22
Storage
1024 GB2048 GB

BATTERY

Battery Life
5 Hours6 Hours
Battery Capacity
90 Wh99.9 Wh

SCREEN

Diagonal Size
15.6"17.3"
Display Technology
IPSIPS
Resolution
1920 x 10802560 x 1600
Refresh Rate
144Hz240Hz
Display Brightness
257 nits384 nits

RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS

Build Quality Score
7.2/108.5/10
Portability Score
7.1/105.6/10
Gaming Laptop Appearance
YesYes
Premium Business Laptop
NoNo
Fan Noise Score
6.8/106.5/10

HARDWARE FEATURES

Keyboard Quality Score
7/109.5/10
Speaker Quality Score
6.8/109.5/10
Webcam
720p1080p
Fingerprint Reader
NoNo
Backlit Keyboard
YesYes
Number Pad
YesYes

CONNECTIVITY

USB Type-A
22
USB-C ports
23
USB-C Charging
YesYes
Display Outputs
34
Thunderbolt Version
44

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ASUS TUF Gaming F15

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Allen Ngo | March 2022
"Aside from all the chassis updates, the new TUF Gaming is most notable for its much higher TGP target of 140 W compared to only 95 W on the previous generation. PC makers everywhere are using the same GeForce GPUs this year since Nvidia has yet to launch the successor to the mobile RTX 3000 series. The more demanding processors of the new TUF Gaming has directly impacted battery life and the size of the AC adapter. Don't expect runtimes to be longer than on the previous generation under most conditions and be prepared to carry around an even larger AC adapter than before."

MSI Raider GE78

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Allen Ngo | March 2023
"Performance-wise, the GE78 offers a significant boost over the GE77 for just slightly higher power consumption. You'll have to get the RTX 4080 or 4090 configurations to see the performance advantages, however, as the RTX 4070 is closer in performance to the older RTX 3080 Ti. In terms of design, some users might prefer the 16:9 minimalistic look of the older GE77 over the 16:10 retro-inspired GE78 and vice versa. We wouldn't call one better than the other in terms of aesthetics, but we'll give the edge to the GE78 for its stronger hinges and larger keys and clickpad."

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About ASUS

ASUS, a Taiwanese electronics brand, is one of the largest personal computer vendor by market share. The majority of their laptops are targeted towards personal use or gaming. Their most popular product lines include the budget-friendly VivoBook, more premium ZenBook, and their TUF and ROG gaming laptops, the latter of which has a reputation for excellent gaming performance.

About MSI

MSI, also known as Micro-Star International, is a Taiwanese technology corporation. MSI is known for their wide range of gaming devices. Their series include the entry-level Cyborg/Thin and Sword/Katana series, the mid-range Bravo/Delta and Crosshair/Pulse series, and their high-end Vector, Raider, Stealth, and Titan GT series. At every performance level, MSI offers a variety of devices with varying balances between performance, battery life, weight, and price, making them a solid option to consider at every price point.

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