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Updated January 10, 2024·
Choosing between the Lenovo LOQ 15 and the MSI Raider GE78 involves considering several factors such as price, performance, and intended use. If budget is a constraint and you need a machine with good performance for general use and occasional intensive tasks, the Lenovo LOQ 15, being less expensive, can be suitable since it provides decent performance for its price range. On the other hand, if you require top-tier performance for 3D rendering, machine learning, engineering tasks, or intensive gaming, and are willing to invest more in a premium laptop, the MSI Raider GE78 offers high-end components that deliver significantly superior performance. Additionally, while the MSI Raider has a larger screen and higher battery capacity, it is also heavier and less portable than the Lenovo. If portability and battery life are important, you may lean towards the Lenovo. Give Feedback
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Advantages of the Lenovo LOQ 15
- The Lenovo LOQ 15 has no clear advantages over the MSI Raider GE78.
Advantages of the MSI Raider GE78
- Very good for general use
- Excellent for engineering and design
- Best in class for gaming and AI
- Very good for software development
- Very good for content creation
- Very good overall display quality
- Very good overall build quality
- Best in class speakers
- Best in class keyboard
Key differences
General Use
7.6
8.7
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
329.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
384.0 nits
6.0 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
6.0 Hours
8.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
9.5/10
6.6/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
5.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for general use, while the Lenovo LOQ 15 is good.
The Lenovo LOQ 15 is suitable for general use with adequate RAM, a competent processor and moderate screen quality, but prioritizes portability with a lighter weight and a fair portability score, making it a good choice for those needing to carry their laptop around. In comparison, the MSI Raider GE78 boasts a more powerful processor, double the RAM, and superior screen quality, but sacrifices on portability with a heavier build and a lower portability score, which might be less appealing for frequent travelers, even though it's ideal for users requiring high performance and better visuals.
Gaming and AI
7.5
9.5
7.0/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
9.9/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
144Hz
REFRESH RATE
240Hz
Yes
SUPPORTS DLSS
Yes
Yes
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
Yes
7.0/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
6.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is best in class for gaming and AI, while the Lenovo LOQ 15 is good.
The MSI Raider GE78 offers a higher-end GPU and a more advanced screen with a higher refresh rate compared to the Lenovo LOQ 15, which provides a solid experience but with more modest gaming and 3D capabilities. While the Raider GE78 stands out for more intense gaming and demanding 3D tasks, its features may come at a higher cost and possibly less portability due to its larger size and weight.
Engineering and Design
7.9
9.4
9.1/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
7.0/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
9.9/10
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
The MSI Raider GE78 is excellent for engineering and design, while the Lenovo LOQ 15 is good.
The MSI Raider GE78 is excellent for engineering and design due to its superior processor, double the RAM, and a significantly more powerful GPU compared to the Lenovo LOQ 15, which still performs very well with a capable CPU, sufficient RAM, and a decent GPU for most engineering tasks. Additionally, the MSI offers a higher resolution and larger screen with better color accuracy and a faster refresh rate providing a clearer and more vibrant visual experience versus the Lenovo's very good screen quality.
Content Creation
7.6
8.8
9.1/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for content creation, while the Lenovo LOQ 15 is good.
PerfectRec’s Content Creation Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for photo editing, video editing and other content creation tasks.
Software Development
7.5
8.5
9.1/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
8.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
9.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for software development, while the Lenovo LOQ 15 is good.
PerfectRec’s Software Development Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for software developers.
Screen Quality
7.1
8.6
15.6in
SIZE
17.3in
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
144Hz
REFRESH RATE
240Hz
329.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
384.0 nits
The MSI Raider GE78 has a better screen than the Lenovo LOQ 15 for general use, gaming and AI, engineering and design, content creation, and software development.
The Lenovo LOQ 15, with its adequate resolution and brightness, makes it suitable for everyday tasks and engineering applications where crisp visuals and color range are less critical. However, its lower refresh rate diminishes the gaming and 3D experience, which relies heavily on fluid motion. On the other hand, the MSI Raider GE78, despite having superior resolution and brightness that benefit all use cases, still falls short in gaming and 3D work due to the poor refresh rate where seamless visuals are paramount.
Portability
Fair
Poor
15.6in
SIZE
17.3in
5.2 lbs
WEIGHT
6.8 lbs
0.9in
THICKNESS
1.1in
The Lenovo LOQ 15 has only fair portability, while the MSI Raider GE78 has poor portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.
Build Quality
7.4
8.5
The MSI Raider GE78 has very good build quality, while the Lenovo LOQ 15 has good build quality.
PerfectRec’s Build Quality Score incorporates case materials, display and keyboard flex, hinge quality, and overall reliability.
Cost
$1,109
$4,386
$500
$1,000
$1,500
$2,000
$2,500
$3,000
$3,500
$4,000
The Lenovo LOQ 15 has a price of $1,109 and the MSI Raider GE78 costs $4,386.
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Battery
6.0 Hours
6.0 Hours
The Lenovo LOQ 15 has 6 hours of battery life. The MSI Raider GE78 has 6 hours of battery life.
Battery life estimate is based on a mix of common use patterns. More portable and higher performing laptops tend to have less battery life.
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How the Lenovo LOQ 15 and the MSI Raider GE78 compare to other laptops
Spec Comparison
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| Lenovo LOQ 15 | MSI Raider GE78 |
GENERAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | |||
$1,109 | $4,386 | ||
Release Date | |||
Release Date | April 1, 2023 | May 1, 2023 | |
Overall Dimensions | |||
Overall Dimensions | 14.2'' x 10.4'' x 0.99'' | 15'' x 11.7'' x 1.13'' | |
Weight | |||
Weight | 5.28 lbs | 6.83 lbs | |
Width | |||
Width | 14.16" | 14.97" | |
Depth | |||
Depth | 10.42" | 11.73" | |
INTERNAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Processor | |||
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS | Intel i9-13980HX | |
RAM | |||
RAM | 16 GB | 32 GB | |
DDR Memory Version | |||
DDR Memory Version | 5 | 5 | |
RAM Slots | |||
RAM Slots | 2 | 2 | |
Storage | |||
Storage | 512 GB | 2048 GB | |
BATTERY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Battery Life | |||
Battery Life | 6 Hours | 6 Hours | |
Battery Capacity | |||
Battery Capacity | 60 Wh | 99.9 Wh | |
SCREEN | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Diagonal Size | |||
Diagonal Size | 15.6" | 17.3" | |
Display Technology | |||
Display Technology | IPS | IPS | |
Resolution | |||
Resolution | 1920 x 1080 | 2560 x 1600 | |
Refresh Rate | |||
Refresh Rate | 144Hz | 240Hz | |
Display Brightness | |||
Display Brightness | 329 nits | 384 nits | |
RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Build Quality Score | |||
Build Quality Score | 7.4/10 | 8.5/10 | |
Portability Score | |||
Portability Score | 6.7/10 | 5.6/10 | |
Gaming Laptop Appearance | |||
Gaming Laptop Appearance | Yes | Yes | |
Premium Business Laptop | |||
Premium Business Laptop | No | No | |
Fan Noise Score | |||
Fan Noise Score | 7/10 | 6.5/10 | |
HARDWARE FEATURES | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Keyboard Quality Score | |||
Keyboard Quality Score | 8/10 | 9.5/10 | |
Speaker Quality Score | |||
Speaker Quality Score | 6.8/10 | 9.5/10 | |
Webcam | |||
Webcam | 1080p | 1080p | |
Fingerprint Reader | |||
Fingerprint Reader | No | No | |
Backlit Keyboard | |||
Backlit Keyboard | Yes | Yes | |
Number Pad | |||
Number Pad | Yes | Yes | |
CONNECTIVITY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
USB Type-A | |||
USB Type-A | 3 | 2 | |
USB-C ports | |||
USB-C ports | 1 | 3 | |
USB-C Charging | |||
USB-C Charging | Yes | Yes | |
Display Outputs | |||
Display Outputs | 2 | 4 | |
Thunderbolt Version | |||
Thunderbolt Version | N/A | 4 | |
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Lenovo LOQ 15
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Mark Knapp | August 2023
"Even after a short time with the LOQ 15, you'll find it has a lot going for it, but ultimately it's just "good"—not quite a star. The performance is respectable for the hardware it’s running, but Lenovo had to make some design sacrifices to trim the price. One of the better aspects is the keyboard, making it one of the better low-cost gaming laptops to actually put your hands on."
MSI Raider GE78
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Allen Ngo | March 2023
"Performance-wise, the GE78 offers a significant boost over the GE77 for just slightly higher power consumption. You'll have to get the RTX 4080 or 4090 configurations to see the performance advantages, however, as the RTX 4070 is closer in performance to the older RTX 3080 Ti. In terms of design, some users might prefer the 16:9 minimalistic look of the older GE77 over the 16:10 retro-inspired GE78 and vice versa. We wouldn't call one better than the other in terms of aesthetics, but we'll give the edge to the GE78 for its stronger hinges and larger keys and clickpad."
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About Lenovo
Lenovo is a Chinese technology company, and one of the largest personal computer vendor. They are well known for a variety of technology products, including laptops. Their consumer series include their entry level IdeaPad and LOQ series and mid-to-high-end Yoga and Legion series. On the business-oriented side, their series include their entry-level ThinkBook series and mid-to-high-end ThinkPad series. Lenovo laptops offer strong performance for reasonable prices, and are often on sale.
About MSI
MSI, also known as Micro-Star International, is a Taiwanese technology corporation. MSI is known for their wide range of gaming devices. Their series include the entry-level Cyborg/Thin and Sword/Katana series, the mid-range Bravo/Delta and Crosshair/Pulse series, and their high-end Vector, Raider, Stealth, and Titan GT series. At every performance level, MSI offers a variety of devices with varying balances between performance, battery life, weight, and price, making them a solid option to consider at every price point.
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