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Updated January 10, 2024·

The HP Envy 17 offers a bigger screen and a robust build, making it well-suited for tasks that benefit from a larger display, such as editing or multitasking. It's a heavier device, so it's less portable but can handle more intensive tasks like gaming or engineering work. On the other hand, the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s is often less expensive and features a smaller, more portable design, ideal for on-the-go use and constant travel. It can handle general use very well, but for more demanding 3D or engineering software, its performance may not match that of the HP Envy 17. The choice depends on whether portability or screen size and performance are more important for your needs. Give Feedback

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Advantages of the HP Envy 17
  • The HP Envy 17 has no clear advantages over the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s.
Advantages of the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s
  • Good overall display quality
  • Excellent portability
  • Very good speakers

Key differences

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Screen Quality

6.8
Envy 17
ThinkBook 13s
7.2
17.3in
SIZE
13.3in
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
60Hz
329.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
336.0 nits
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s has a better screen than the HP Envy 17 for general use, engineering and design, and software development.

Portability

Good
Envy 17
ThinkBook 13s
Excellent
17.3in
SIZE
13.3in
5.4 lbs
WEIGHT
2.9 lbs
0.7in
THICKNESS
0.5in
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s has excellent portability, while the HP Envy 17 has good portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.
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Key similarities

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General Use

7.5
Envy 17
ThinkBook 13s
7.8
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
329.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
336.0 nits
8.0 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
8.0 Hours
7.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
7.5/10
7.0/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
9.0/10
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 are both good for general use.

Gaming and AI

6.4
Envy 17
ThinkBook 13s
6.4
3.8/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
3.8/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
60Hz
No
SUPPORTS DLSS
No
No
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
No
7.0/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
8.3/10
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 are both only fair for gaming and AI.

Engineering and Design

7.4
Envy 17
ThinkBook 13s
7.5
9.0/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.9/10
3.8/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
3.8/10
16.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 are both good for engineering and design.

Content Creation

7.5
Envy 17
ThinkBook 13s
7.8
9.0/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.9/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
16.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 are both good for content creation.

Software Development

7.5
Envy 17
ThinkBook 13s
7.7
9.0/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.9/10
16.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
7.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
7.5/10
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 are both good for software development.

Battery

8.0 Hours
Envy 17
ThinkBook 13s
8.0 Hours
The HP Envy 17 has 8 hours of battery life. The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s has 8 hours of battery life.

Build Quality

7.2
Envy 17
ThinkBook 13s
7.6
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 both have good build quality.

Cost

$1,000
Envy 17
ThinkBook 13s
$1,000
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The HP Envy 17 has a price of $1,000 and the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s costs $1,000.

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How the HP Envy 17 and the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s compare to other laptops

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Spec Comparison

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HP Envy 17Lenovo ThinkBook 13s
HP Envy 17Lenovo ThinkBook 13s

GENERAL

Price
$1,000
$1,000
Release Date
May 1, 2023May 1, 2022
Overall Dimensions
15.7'' x 10.2'' x 0.77''11.7'' x 8.3'' x 0.59''
Weight
5.49 lbs2.9 lbs
Width
15.68"11.7"
Depth
10.2"8.3"

INTERNAL

Processor
Intel i7-13700HIntel i7-1260P
RAM
16 GB16 GB
DDR Memory Version
45
RAM Slots
00
Storage
512 GB512 GB

BATTERY

Battery Life
8 Hours8 Hours
Battery Capacity
55 Wh56 Wh

SCREEN

Diagonal Size
17.3"13.3"
Display Technology
IPSIPS
Resolution
1920 x 10802560 x 1600
Refresh Rate
60Hz60Hz
Display Brightness
329 nits336 nits

RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS

Build Quality Score
7.2/107.6/10
Portability Score
7/109.1/10
Gaming Laptop Appearance
NoNo
Premium Business Laptop
NoNo
Fan Noise Score
7/108.4/10

HARDWARE FEATURES

Keyboard Quality Score
7/107.5/10
Speaker Quality Score
6.5/108.8/10
Webcam
1080p720p
Fingerprint Reader
NoYes
Backlit Keyboard
YesYes
Number Pad
YesNo

CONNECTIVITY

USB Type-A
30
USB-C ports
23
USB-C Charging
YesYes
Display Outputs
33
Thunderbolt Version
44

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HP Envy 17

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Marcus Schwarten | April 2023
"In our test, the HP Envy 17-cr0079ng presents itself as a balanced multimedia laptop. Thanks to its solid CPU performance and dedicated entry-level GeForce, it can also be used for playing video games, as long as the demands aren't too high. Those looking for more can find it in the Dell XPS 17 for example."

Lenovo ThinkBook 13s

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Monica Chin | July 2021
"The best thing about the ThinkBook 13S is that it’s a good deal. Business buyers looking for ThinkPad-level performance and software without ThinkPad pricing will probably find the ThinkBook a solid option. While nothing about it is really spectacular, it’s certainly unusual to see the ThinkBook’s screen resolution at a sub-$1,000 price, and its performance will be more than adequate for most office tasks. The generous port selection, 16:10 aspect ratio, physical webcam shutter, and clear audio are certainly icing on the cake."

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About HP

HP, also known as Hewlett-Packard, is an American technology company that develops personal computers and computer peripherals. In the laptop industry, HP is known for its entry level Essential series laptops, its mid-range Pavilion, Envy, and Victus series, and high-end Omen and Spectre series, in addition to its business-oriented EliteBook, ProBook, and Dragonfly series laptops. HP laptops generally undercut other mainstream competitors in terms of price, placing itself as the value-oriented mainstream brand.

About Lenovo

Lenovo is a Chinese technology company, and one of the largest personal computer vendor. They are well known for a variety of technology products, including laptops. Their consumer series include their entry level IdeaPad and LOQ series and mid-to-high-end Yoga and Legion series. On the business-oriented side, their series include their entry-level ThinkBook series and mid-to-high-end ThinkPad series. Lenovo laptops offer strong performance for reasonable prices, and are often on sale.

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