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Updated January 10, 2024·
The HP Envy 17 offers a bigger screen and a robust build, making it well-suited for tasks that benefit from a larger display, such as editing or multitasking. It's a heavier device, so it's less portable but can handle more intensive tasks like gaming or engineering work. On the other hand, the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s is often less expensive and features a smaller, more portable design, ideal for on-the-go use and constant travel. It can handle general use very well, but for more demanding 3D or engineering software, its performance may not match that of the HP Envy 17. The choice depends on whether portability or screen size and performance are more important for your needs. Give Feedback
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Advantages of the HP Envy 17
- The HP Envy 17 has no clear advantages over the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s.
Advantages of the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s
- Good overall display quality
- Excellent portability
- Very good speakers
Key differences
Screen Quality
6.8
7.2
17.3in
SIZE
13.3in
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
60Hz
329.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
336.0 nits
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s has a better screen than the HP Envy 17 for general use, engineering and design, and software development.
In general use, both the HP Envy 17 and Lenovo ThinkBook 13s offer screens with clear resolution and sufficient brightness, providing users with a pleasant visual experience for everyday tasks like browsing and document editing. For engineering and design, these laptops provide a wide range of colors, making them suitable for professionals who need accurate color representation for their work. However, for gaming and 3D tasks, they fall short as their refresh rates are lower, leading to less smooth visuals, which is particularly noticeable in fast-paced games or when working with quick 3D rendering.
Portability
Good
Excellent
17.3in
SIZE
13.3in
5.4 lbs
WEIGHT
2.9 lbs
0.7in
THICKNESS
0.5in
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s has excellent portability, while the HP Envy 17 has good portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.
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Key similarities
General Use
7.5
7.8
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
329.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
336.0 nits
8.0 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
8.0 Hours
7.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
7.5/10
7.0/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
9.0/10
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 are both good for general use.
The HP Envy 17 provides a solid balance for general use with its larger screen, robust CPU, and ample RAM, but its larger size and weight reduce portability compared to the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s, which offers similar CPU and RAM capacity, a sharper screen, and greater portability at a lighter weight, although with a smaller screen. Both laptops have similar battery life, high-quality screens, and enough storage for everyday tasks, but the HP may offer a more comfortable viewing experience due to its size, while the Lenovo excels in mix of portability and screen detail.
Gaming and AI
6.4
6.4
3.8/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
3.8/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
60Hz
No
SUPPORTS DLSS
No
No
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
No
7.0/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
8.3/10
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 are both only fair for gaming and AI.
The HP Envy 17 and Lenovo ThinkBook 13s are both considered fair for gaming and 3D because they have integrated graphics which can handle moderate gaming, but may not excel at high-end performance. Both laptops feature standard screen refresh rates suitable for general use but may not provide the smoothest experience in fast-paced games or intense 3D applications that benefit from higher refresh rates.
Engineering and Design
7.4
7.5
9.0/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.9/10
3.8/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
3.8/10
16.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 are both good for engineering and design.
The HP Envy 17 might be favored for extensive engineering and design tasks due to a higher-powered CPU and a larger screen, which can be crucial for multitasking and detailed work, but it's heavier and less portable compared to the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s, which has a higher resolution display that could benefit design precision and portability, but has a less powerful CPU which may not handle intensive tasks as swiftly.
Content Creation
7.5
7.8
9.0/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.9/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
16.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 are both good for content creation.
PerfectRec’s Content Creation Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for photo editing, video editing and other content creation tasks.
Software Development
7.5
7.7
9.0/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.9/10
16.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
7.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
7.5/10
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 are both good for software development.
PerfectRec’s Software Development Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for software developers.
Battery
8.0 Hours
8.0 Hours
The HP Envy 17 has 8 hours of battery life. The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s has 8 hours of battery life.
Battery life estimate is based on a mix of common use patterns. More portable and higher performing laptops tend to have less battery life.
Build Quality
7.2
7.6
The Lenovo ThinkBook 13s and HP Envy 17 both have good build quality.
PerfectRec’s Build Quality Score incorporates case materials, display and keyboard flex, hinge quality, and overall reliability.
Cost
$1,000
$1,000
$400
$600
$800
$1,000
$1,200
$1,400
$1,600
The HP Envy 17 has a price of $1,000 and the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s costs $1,000.
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How the HP Envy 17 and the Lenovo ThinkBook 13s compare to other laptops
Spec Comparison
 |  | |
| HP Envy 17 | Lenovo ThinkBook 13s |
GENERAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | |||
$1,000 | $1,000 | ||
Release Date | |||
Release Date | May 1, 2023 | May 1, 2022 | |
Overall Dimensions | |||
Overall Dimensions | 15.7'' x 10.2'' x 0.77'' | 11.7'' x 8.3'' x 0.59'' | |
Weight | |||
Weight | 5.49 lbs | 2.9 lbs | |
Width | |||
Width | 15.68" | 11.7" | |
Depth | |||
Depth | 10.2" | 8.3" | |
INTERNAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Processor | |||
Processor | Intel i7-13700H | Intel i7-1260P | |
RAM | |||
RAM | 16 GB | 16 GB | |
DDR Memory Version | |||
DDR Memory Version | 4 | 5 | |
RAM Slots | |||
RAM Slots | 0 | 0 | |
Storage | |||
Storage | 512 GB | 512 GB | |
BATTERY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Battery Life | |||
Battery Life | 8 Hours | 8 Hours | |
Battery Capacity | |||
Battery Capacity | 55 Wh | 56 Wh | |
SCREEN | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Diagonal Size | |||
Diagonal Size | 17.3" | 13.3" | |
Display Technology | |||
Display Technology | IPS | IPS | |
Resolution | |||
Resolution | 1920 x 1080 | 2560 x 1600 | |
Refresh Rate | |||
Refresh Rate | 60Hz | 60Hz | |
Display Brightness | |||
Display Brightness | 329 nits | 336 nits | |
RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Build Quality Score | |||
Build Quality Score | 7.2/10 | 7.6/10 | |
Portability Score | |||
Portability Score | 7/10 | 9.1/10 | |
Gaming Laptop Appearance | |||
Gaming Laptop Appearance | No | No | |
Premium Business Laptop | |||
Premium Business Laptop | No | No | |
Fan Noise Score | |||
Fan Noise Score | 7/10 | 8.4/10 | |
HARDWARE FEATURES | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Keyboard Quality Score | |||
Keyboard Quality Score | 7/10 | 7.5/10 | |
Speaker Quality Score | |||
Speaker Quality Score | 6.5/10 | 8.8/10 | |
Webcam | |||
Webcam | 1080p | 720p | |
Fingerprint Reader | |||
Fingerprint Reader | No | Yes | |
Backlit Keyboard | |||
Backlit Keyboard | Yes | Yes | |
Number Pad | |||
Number Pad | Yes | No | |
CONNECTIVITY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
USB Type-A | |||
USB Type-A | 3 | 0 | |
USB-C ports | |||
USB-C ports | 2 | 3 | |
USB-C Charging | |||
USB-C Charging | Yes | Yes | |
Display Outputs | |||
Display Outputs | 3 | 3 | |
Thunderbolt Version | |||
Thunderbolt Version | 4 | 4 | |
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HP Envy 17
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Marcus Schwarten | April 2023
"In our test, the HP Envy 17-cr0079ng presents itself as a balanced multimedia laptop. Thanks to its solid CPU performance and dedicated entry-level GeForce, it can also be used for playing video games, as long as the demands aren't too high. Those looking for more can find it in the Dell XPS 17 for example."
Lenovo ThinkBook 13s
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Monica Chin | July 2021
"The best thing about the ThinkBook 13S is that it’s a good deal. Business buyers looking for ThinkPad-level performance and software without ThinkPad pricing will probably find the ThinkBook a solid option. While nothing about it is really spectacular, it’s certainly unusual to see the ThinkBook’s screen resolution at a sub-$1,000 price, and its performance will be more than adequate for most office tasks. The generous port selection, 16:10 aspect ratio, physical webcam shutter, and clear audio are certainly icing on the cake."
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About HP
HP, also known as Hewlett-Packard, is an American technology company that develops personal computers and computer peripherals. In the laptop industry, HP is known for its entry level Essential series laptops, its mid-range Pavilion, Envy, and Victus series, and high-end Omen and Spectre series, in addition to its business-oriented EliteBook, ProBook, and Dragonfly series laptops. HP laptops generally undercut other mainstream competitors in terms of price, placing itself as the value-oriented mainstream brand.
About Lenovo
Lenovo is a Chinese technology company, and one of the largest personal computer vendor. They are well known for a variety of technology products, including laptops. Their consumer series include their entry level IdeaPad and LOQ series and mid-to-high-end Yoga and Legion series. On the business-oriented side, their series include their entry-level ThinkBook series and mid-to-high-end ThinkPad series. Lenovo laptops offer strong performance for reasonable prices, and are often on sale.
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