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Updated January 10, 2024·
The LG Gram 17 is less expensive and highly portable with its lighter weight and longer battery life, making it suitable for general use and productivity on the go. It has a solid performance for everyday tasks but limited capabilities for 3D rendering or intensive gaming. The MSI Raider GE78, on the other hand, is costlier and heavier with shorter battery life, but offers top-notch performance for 3D modeling, machine learning, and gaming due to its more powerful processor and GPU. It is less portable but excels in power-intensive engineering tasks and high-end gaming experiences. Give Feedback
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Advantages of the LG Gram 17
- Good portability
- Very good battery life
Advantages of the MSI Raider GE78
- Excellent for engineering and design
- Best in class for gaming and AI
- Very good overall display quality
- Very good overall build quality
- Best in class speakers
- Best in class keyboard
Key differences
Gaming and AI
6.5
9.5
3.8/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
9.9/10
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
240Hz
No
SUPPORTS DLSS
Yes
No
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
Yes
8.7/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
6.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is best in class for gaming and AI, while the LG Gram 17 is only fair.
The LG Gram 17 features an Iris Xe GPU which provides decent performance for gaming and 3D applications, but it pales in comparison with the MSI Raider GE78's significantly more powerful Nvidia RTX 4090, which is top-of-the-line for these tasks. Additionally, the MSI Raider GE78 has a much higher screen refresh rate, which at 240Hz greatly outperforms the LG Gram 17's 60Hz, delivering smoother visuals particularly beneficial in fast-paced gaming scenarios.
Engineering and Design
8.0
9.4
7.9/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
3.8/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
9.9/10
32.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
The MSI Raider GE78 is excellent for engineering and design, while the LG Gram 17 is very good.
PerfectRec’s Engineering and Design Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for graphic design and 3D rendering work.
Screen Quality
7.4
8.6
17.0in
SIZE
17.3in
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
240Hz
353.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
384.0 nits
The MSI Raider GE78 has a better screen than the LG Gram 17 for general use, gaming and AI, engineering and design, content creation, and software development.
For general use, the LG Gram 17's larger screen and high resolution offer a clear and sharp image, but its lower brightness compared to the MSI Raider GE78 may make it less ideal in brightly-lit environments. When it comes to engineering and design, both laptops have high-resolution displays that cover a wide range of colors, but the MSI Raider's possibly superior color accuracy can be crucial for professionals needing precise color representation. However, in gaming and 3D contexts, the MSI Raider falls short due to its lower refresh rate, which can hinder the smoothness of fast-moving images, a drawback less significant on the LG Gram 17 despite its other limitations.
Battery
11.0 Hours
6.0 Hours
The LG Gram 17 has 11 hours of battery life. The MSI Raider GE78 has 6 hours of battery life.
Battery life estimate is based on a mix of common use patterns. More portable and higher performing laptops tend to have less battery life.
Portability
Good
Poor
17.0in
SIZE
17.3in
2.9 lbs
WEIGHT
6.8 lbs
0.7in
THICKNESS
1.1in
The LG Gram 17 has good portability, while the MSI Raider GE78 has poor portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.
Build Quality
7.0
8.5
The MSI Raider GE78 has very good build quality, while the LG Gram 17 has good build quality.
PerfectRec’s Build Quality Score incorporates case materials, display and keyboard flex, hinge quality, and overall reliability.
Cost
$2,100
$4,386
$1,000
$1,500
$2,000
$2,500
$3,000
$3,500
$4,000
The LG Gram 17 has a price of $2,100 and the MSI Raider GE78 costs $4,386.
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Key similarities
General Use
8.5
8.7
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
353.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
384.0 nits
11.0 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
6.0 Hours
7.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
9.5/10
7.9/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
5.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 and LG Gram 17 are both very good for general use.
The LG Gram 17 offers a balance with its high-quality screen, large battery, and light weight, making it easy to carry with a decent battery life for general use, though it has moderate processing power with its Intel i7, suitable for everyday tasks. In contrast, the MSI Raider GE78 has a significantly more powerful CPU and advanced graphics which are great for demanding applications, yet this comes at the cost of portability and a shorter battery life.
Content Creation
8.4
8.8
7.9/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
32.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The MSI Raider GE78 and LG Gram 17 are both very good for content creation.
PerfectRec’s Content Creation Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for photo editing, video editing and other content creation tasks.
Software Development
8.2
8.5
7.9/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
32.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
7.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
9.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 and LG Gram 17 are both very good for software development.
PerfectRec’s Software Development Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for software developers.
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How the LG Gram 17 and the MSI Raider GE78 compare to other laptops
Spec Comparison
 |  | |
| LG Gram 17 | MSI Raider GE78 |
GENERAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | |||
$2,100 | $4,386 | ||
Release Date | |||
Release Date | April 1, 2022 | May 1, 2023 | |
Overall Dimensions | |||
Overall Dimensions | 14.9'' x 10.2'' x 0.7'' | 15'' x 11.7'' x 1.13'' | |
Weight | |||
Weight | 2.98 lbs | 6.83 lbs | |
Width | |||
Width | 14.91" | 14.97" | |
Depth | |||
Depth | 10.19" | 11.73" | |
INTERNAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Processor | |||
Processor | Intel i7-1260P | Intel i9-13980HX | |
RAM | |||
RAM | 32 GB | 32 GB | |
DDR Memory Version | |||
DDR Memory Version | 5 | 5 | |
RAM Slots | |||
RAM Slots | 0 | 2 | |
Storage | |||
Storage | 2048 GB | 2048 GB | |
BATTERY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Battery Life | |||
Battery Life | 11 Hours | 6 Hours | |
Battery Capacity | |||
Battery Capacity | 80 Wh | 99.9 Wh | |
SCREEN | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Diagonal Size | |||
Diagonal Size | 17" | 17.3" | |
Display Technology | |||
Display Technology | IPS | IPS | |
Resolution | |||
Resolution | 2560 x 1600 | 2560 x 1600 | |
Refresh Rate | |||
Refresh Rate | 60Hz | 240Hz | |
Display Brightness | |||
Display Brightness | 353 nits | 384 nits | |
RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Build Quality Score | |||
Build Quality Score | 7/10 | 8.5/10 | |
Portability Score | |||
Portability Score | 8/10 | 5.6/10 | |
Gaming Laptop Appearance | |||
Gaming Laptop Appearance | No | Yes | |
Premium Business Laptop | |||
Premium Business Laptop | No | No | |
Fan Noise Score | |||
Fan Noise Score | 8.8/10 | 6.5/10 | |
HARDWARE FEATURES | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Keyboard Quality Score | |||
Keyboard Quality Score | 7.5/10 | 9.5/10 | |
Speaker Quality Score | |||
Speaker Quality Score | 7/10 | 9.5/10 | |
Webcam | |||
Webcam | 720p | 1080p | |
Fingerprint Reader | |||
Fingerprint Reader | No | No | |
Backlit Keyboard | |||
Backlit Keyboard | Yes | Yes | |
Number Pad | |||
Number Pad | Yes | Yes | |
CONNECTIVITY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
USB Type-A | |||
USB Type-A | 2 | 2 | |
USB-C ports | |||
USB-C ports | 2 | 3 | |
USB-C Charging | |||
USB-C Charging | Yes | Yes | |
Display Outputs | |||
Display Outputs | 3 | 4 | |
Thunderbolt Version | |||
Thunderbolt Version | 4 | 4 | |
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LG Gram 17
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Sascha Mölck | August 2022
"The LG Gram 17 is a light office laptop with a large display and great battery life. The newest incarnation of the Gram 17 can be classified as a model update. LG uses the predecessor's compact, light magnesium case along with an identical port configuration (including 2x Thunderbolt 4) and keyboard. Changes can be found in the hardware. With the Gram 17 (2022), LG offers a light (approx. 1,350 g), mobile work device - and finally with a matte display."
MSI Raider GE78
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Allen Ngo | March 2023
"Performance-wise, the GE78 offers a significant boost over the GE77 for just slightly higher power consumption. You'll have to get the RTX 4080 or 4090 configurations to see the performance advantages, however, as the RTX 4070 is closer in performance to the older RTX 3080 Ti. In terms of design, some users might prefer the 16:9 minimalistic look of the older GE77 over the 16:10 retro-inspired GE78 and vice versa. We wouldn't call one better than the other in terms of aesthetics, but we'll give the edge to the GE78 for its stronger hinges and larger keys and clickpad."
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About LG
LG is a South Korean conglomerate company. While LG is mainly known for various products outside of technology, LG also develops laptops. Within the laptop industry, they are known for their thin-and-light Gram series, as well as their value-oriented Ultra series. LG laptops offer very thin and light laptops with phenomenal battery life, and are often on sale.
About MSI
MSI, also known as Micro-Star International, is a Taiwanese technology corporation. MSI is known for their wide range of gaming devices. Their series include the entry-level Cyborg/Thin and Sword/Katana series, the mid-range Bravo/Delta and Crosshair/Pulse series, and their high-end Vector, Raider, Stealth, and Titan GT series. At every performance level, MSI offers a variety of devices with varying balances between performance, battery life, weight, and price, making them a solid option to consider at every price point.
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