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Updated January 10, 2024·
The LG Gram 17 offers better battery life, is significantly lighter for enhanced portability, has a larger screen and higher resolution, and comes with more storage space and RAM, making it better suited for general use, multitasking, and productivity tasks. However, the MSI Cyborg 15, while heavier and with a smaller screen, includes a dedicated graphics card that significantly outperforms the LG Gram 17's integrated graphics. This makes it more suitable for 3D rendering, gaming, and machine learning tasks, though it sacrifices screen size, resolution, and battery life in comparison. The MSI is generally less expensive, so if budget and gaming or graphics performance are a priority, it may be the better choice. Give Feedback
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Advantages of the LG Gram 17
- Very good for general use
- Very good for engineering and design
- Very good for software development
- Very good for content creation
- Good overall display quality
- Good overall build quality
- Very good battery life
- Good speakers
Advantages of the MSI Cyborg 15
- Good for gaming and AI
Key differences
General Use
8.5
7.3
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
353.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
234.0 nits
11.0 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
7.5 Hours
7.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
7.0/10
7.9/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
7.2/10
The LG Gram 17 is very good for general use, while the MSI Cyborg 15 is good.
The LG Gram 17 offers a higher RAM capacity, a larger high-resolution screen with better color accuracy, and lighter weight for increased portability, making it well-suited for general use activities that require screen real estate and multitasking capability.
Gaming and AI
6.5
7.2
3.8/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
6.5/10
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
144Hz
No
SUPPORTS DLSS
Yes
No
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
No
8.7/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
6.5/10
The MSI Cyborg 15 is good for gaming and AI, while the LG Gram 17 is only fair.
The LG Gram 17, with its high-quality screen and solid GPU, provides a great balance for gaming and 3D work, though it might lag slightly behind in action-packed games due to a standard screen refresh rate. The MSI Cyborg 15, on the other hand, boasts a superior GPU and higher screen refresh rate, offering smoother visuals for fast-paced games at the expense of being bulkier and possibly pricier.
Content Creation
8.4
7.5
7.9/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
8.7/10
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
32.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The LG Gram 17 is very good for content creation, while the MSI Cyborg 15 is good.
PerfectRec’s Content Creation Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for photo editing, video editing and other content creation tasks.
Software Development
8.2
7.2
7.9/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
8.7/10
32.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
7.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
7.0/10
The LG Gram 17 is very good for software development, while the MSI Cyborg 15 is good.
PerfectRec’s Software Development Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for software developers.
Screen Quality
7.4
6.8
17.0in
SIZE
15.6in
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
144Hz
353.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
234.0 nits
The LG Gram 17 has a better screen than the MSI Cyborg 15 for general use, engineering and design, software development, and content creation.
The LG Gram 17, with its higher resolution and bright screen, offers crisp and clear visuals, making it superior for general use and intricate engineering tasks that benefit from sharp details and vibrant colors. Its comprehensive color gamuts provide accuracy crucial for design work, where precise color reproduction can be critical. However, for gaming and 3D applications, the LG Gram's lower refresh rate may lead to less fluid motion, which is less optimal for fast-paced visuals compared to laptops designed with higher refresh rates specifically for these purposes.
Battery
11.0 Hours
7.5 Hours
The LG Gram 17 has 11 hours of battery life. The MSI Cyborg 15 has 7.5 hours of battery life.
Battery life estimate is based on a mix of common use patterns. More portable and higher performing laptops tend to have less battery life.
Portability
Good
Good
17.0in
SIZE
15.6in
2.9 lbs
WEIGHT
4.3 lbs
0.7in
THICKNESS
0.9in
The LG Gram 17 and MSI Cyborg 15 both have good portability, though the LG Gram 17 has somewhat better portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.
Cost
$1,699
$1,100
$500
$1,000
$1,500
$2,000
$2,500
$3,000
The LG Gram 17 has a price of $1,699 and the MSI Cyborg 15 costs $1,100.
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Key similarities
Engineering and Design
8.0
7.5
7.9/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
8.7/10
3.8/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
6.5/10
32.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
Although they have very similar scores, PerfectRec considers LG Gram 17 to be very good for engineering and design, while the MSI Cyborg 15 is good.
The LG Gram 17 is recognized for engineering and design use because it is lightweight with a larger, higher-resolution screen, providing plenty of workspace and clear visuals, along with substantial RAM for multitasking and a capable CPU and integrated GPU suitable for less intensive tasks. The MSI Cyborg 15, on the other hand, offers a dedicated high-performance GPU and a powerful CPU for demanding software but trades off with a smaller screen and heavier build which impacts its portability.
Build Quality
7.0
6.7
Although they have very similar scores, PerfectRec considers LG Gram 17 to have good build quality, while the MSI Cyborg 15 has only fair build quality.
PerfectRec’s Build Quality Score incorporates case materials, display and keyboard flex, hinge quality, and overall reliability.
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How the LG Gram 17 and the MSI Cyborg 15 compare to other laptops
Spec Comparison
 |  | |
| LG Gram 17 | MSI Cyborg 15 |
GENERAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | |||
$1,699 | $1,100 | ||
Release Date | |||
Release Date | April 1, 2022 | May 1, 2023 | |
Overall Dimensions | |||
Overall Dimensions | 14.9'' x 10.2'' x 0.7'' | 14.2'' x 9.9'' x 0.9'' | |
Weight | |||
Weight | 2.98 lbs | 4.37 lbs | |
Width | |||
Width | 14.91" | 14.15" | |
Depth | |||
Depth | 10.19" | 9.86" | |
INTERNAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Processor | |||
Processor | Intel i7-1260P | Intel i7-12650H | |
RAM | |||
RAM | 32 GB | 8 GB | |
DDR Memory Version | |||
DDR Memory Version | 5 | 5 | |
RAM Slots | |||
RAM Slots | 0 | 2 | |
Storage | |||
Storage | 2048 GB | 512 GB | |
BATTERY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Battery Life | |||
Battery Life | 11 Hours | 7.5 Hours | |
Battery Capacity | |||
Battery Capacity | 80 Wh | 53.5 Wh | |
SCREEN | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Diagonal Size | |||
Diagonal Size | 17" | 15.6" | |
Display Technology | |||
Display Technology | IPS | IPS | |
Resolution | |||
Resolution | 2560 x 1600 | 1920 x 1080 | |
Refresh Rate | |||
Refresh Rate | 60Hz | 144Hz | |
Display Brightness | |||
Display Brightness | 353 nits | 234 nits | |
RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Build Quality Score | |||
Build Quality Score | 7/10 | 6.8/10 | |
Portability Score | |||
Portability Score | 8/10 | 7.3/10 | |
Gaming Laptop Appearance | |||
Gaming Laptop Appearance | No | Yes | |
Premium Business Laptop | |||
Premium Business Laptop | No | No | |
Fan Noise Score | |||
Fan Noise Score | 8.8/10 | 6.5/10 | |
HARDWARE FEATURES | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Keyboard Quality Score | |||
Keyboard Quality Score | 7.5/10 | 7/10 | |
Speaker Quality Score | |||
Speaker Quality Score | 7/10 | 6.8/10 | |
Webcam | |||
Webcam | 720p | 720p | |
Fingerprint Reader | |||
Fingerprint Reader | No | No | |
Backlit Keyboard | |||
Backlit Keyboard | Yes | Yes | |
Number Pad | |||
Number Pad | Yes | Yes | |
CONNECTIVITY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
USB Type-A | |||
USB Type-A | 2 | 2 | |
USB-C ports | |||
USB-C ports | 2 | 1 | |
USB-C Charging | |||
USB-C Charging | Yes | No | |
Display Outputs | |||
Display Outputs | 3 | 2 | |
Thunderbolt Version | |||
Thunderbolt Version | 4 | N/A | |
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LG Gram 17
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Sascha Mölck | August 2022
"The LG Gram 17 is a light office laptop with a large display and great battery life. The newest incarnation of the Gram 17 can be classified as a model update. LG uses the predecessor's compact, light magnesium case along with an identical port configuration (including 2x Thunderbolt 4) and keyboard. Changes can be found in the hardware. With the Gram 17 (2022), LG offers a light (approx. 1,350 g), mobile work device - and finally with a matte display."
MSI Cyborg 15
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Sascha Mölck | April 2023
"The focus of the MSI Cyborg 15 lies on a compromise of performance, mobility, and power consumption. Due to the reduced performance settings, the CPU and GPU perform below their capabilities. Nonetheless, their computing power is still sufficient for FHD gaming at high to maximum settings even then. The power consumption, which is low for a gaming laptop, can be translated into a good battery life. Realistic values of 7 to 8 h are still possible, despite the relatively small battery capacity of 53.5 Wh. Unfortunately the USB-C port doesn't offer any support for Power Delivery, which would be a sensible feature in the case of the Cyborg."
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About LG
LG is a South Korean conglomerate company. While LG is mainly known for various products outside of technology, LG also develops laptops. Within the laptop industry, they are known for their thin-and-light Gram series, as well as their value-oriented Ultra series. LG laptops offer very thin and light laptops with phenomenal battery life, and are often on sale.
About MSI
MSI, also known as Micro-Star International, is a Taiwanese technology corporation. MSI is known for their wide range of gaming devices. Their series include the entry-level Cyborg/Thin and Sword/Katana series, the mid-range Bravo/Delta and Crosshair/Pulse series, and their high-end Vector, Raider, Stealth, and Titan GT series. At every performance level, MSI offers a variety of devices with varying balances between performance, battery life, weight, and price, making them a solid option to consider at every price point.
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