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Updated January 10, 2024·
The LG Gram 17 offers a large screen size, considerable storage, and extensive battery life, making it suitable for users needing portability and long battery life. It is also lightweight, enhancing its portability. On the other hand, the MSI Creator Z16P, while heavier and with less battery life, provides a more powerful processor and dedicated graphics, making it better suited for demanding tasks like 3D rendering, machine learning, and gaming. The MSI Creator also has a touchscreen and a higher screen refresh rate for a smoother visual experience. Give Feedback
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Advantages of the LG Gram 17
- Very good for general use
- Very good for software development
- Very good for content creation
- Very good battery life
Advantages of the MSI Creator Z16P
- Good for gaming and AI
- Very good overall display quality
- Very good overall build quality
- Very good speakers
- Very good keyboard
Key differences
General Use
8.5
7.8
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
353.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
394.0 nits
11.0 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
5.0 Hours
7.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
8.0/10
7.9/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
7.2/10
The LG Gram 17 is very good for general use, while the MSI Creator Z16P is good.
The LG Gram 17 excels in portability and battery life, which are crucial for general use, and despite its large screen, it is lightweight and offers long-lasting power while having a powerful CPU and ample RAM for smooth operation. The MSI Creator Z16P, on the other hand, provides superior performance with a higher-level CPU and dedicated graphics, which comes at the cost of reduced battery life and increased weight, making it less portable but better equipped for tasks that require more processing power like content creation.
Gaming and AI
6.5
7.6
3.8/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
7.4/10
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
165Hz
No
SUPPORTS DLSS
Yes
No
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
No
8.7/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
7.7/10
The MSI Creator Z16P is good for gaming and AI, while the LG Gram 17 is only fair.
The LG Gram 17, with its Intel Iris Xe graphics, is suitable for casual gaming and 3D applications with the benefit of a lightweight body and longer battery life, but the MSI Creator Z16P's Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti offers superior gaming and 3D performance, as well as a higher refresh rate display, making it better for more demanding gaming and content creation at the cost of increased weight and lower battery life.
Software Development
8.2
7.6
7.9/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.2/10
32.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
7.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
8.0/10
The LG Gram 17 is very good for software development, while the MSI Creator Z16P is good.
PerfectRec’s Software Development Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for software developers.
Screen Quality
7.4
8.3
17.0in
SIZE
16.0in
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
165Hz
353.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
394.0 nits
The LG Gram 17 has a better screen than the MSI Creator Z16P for software development, and content creation, while the MSI Creator Z16P has a better screen for general use, gaming and AI, and engineering and design.
For general use, the LG Gram 17 offers a balance in resolution and brightness apt for everyday tasks, while the MSI Creator Z16P steps up with even higher resolution and brightness, providing more vivid and sharper visuals ideal for various environments. When it comes to engineering and design, both laptops provide good color accuracy with the MSI Creator Z16P possibly edging out with better coverage of professional color gamuts, ensuring that designers see colors more consistently. However, for gaming and 3D tasks, neither laptop excels due to lower refresh rates, making fast-paced visuals less smooth compared to laptops specifically designed for gaming with higher refresh rates.
Battery
11.0 Hours
5.0 Hours
The LG Gram 17 has 11 hours of battery life. The MSI Creator Z16P has 5 hours of battery life.
Battery life estimate is based on a mix of common use patterns. More portable and higher performing laptops tend to have less battery life.
Portability
Good
Good
17.0in
SIZE
16.0in
2.9 lbs
WEIGHT
5.2 lbs
0.7in
THICKNESS
0.7in
The LG Gram 17 and MSI Creator Z16P both have good portability, though the LG Gram 17 has somewhat better portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.
Build Quality
7.0
8.0
The MSI Creator Z16P has very good build quality, while the LG Gram 17 has good build quality.
PerfectRec’s Build Quality Score incorporates case materials, display and keyboard flex, hinge quality, and overall reliability.
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Key similarities
Engineering and Design
8.0
8.3
7.9/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.2/10
3.8/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
7.4/10
32.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
The MSI Creator Z16P and LG Gram 17 are both very good for engineering and design.
The MSI Creator Z16P is very good for engineering and design because it boasts a high-end CPU and a powerful dedicated GPU, which are crucial for demanding tasks, whereas the LG Gram 17 has a mid-range CPU and integrated graphics, making it good but less suited for intensive tasks.
Content Creation
8.4
7.9
7.9/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.2/10
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
32.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
Although they have very similar scores, PerfectRec considers LG Gram 17 to be very good for content creation, while the MSI Creator Z16P is good.
PerfectRec’s Content Creation Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for photo editing, video editing and other content creation tasks.
Cost
$1,699
$1,699
$500
$1,000
$1,500
$2,000
$2,500
$3,000
The LG Gram 17 has a price of $1,699 and the MSI Creator Z16P costs $1,699.
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How the LG Gram 17 and the MSI Creator Z16P compare to other laptops
Spec Comparison
 |  | |
| LG Gram 17 | MSI Creator Z16P |
GENERAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | |||
$1,699 | $1,699 | ||
Release Date | |||
Release Date | April 1, 2022 | June 1, 2023 | |
Overall Dimensions | |||
Overall Dimensions | 14.9'' x 10.2'' x 0.7'' | 14.1'' x 10.2'' x 0.75'' | |
Weight | |||
Weight | 2.98 lbs | 5.27 lbs | |
Width | |||
Width | 14.91" | 14.13" | |
Depth | |||
Depth | 10.19" | 10.18" | |
INTERNAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Processor | |||
Processor | Intel i7-1260P | Intel i9-12900H | |
RAM | |||
RAM | 32 GB | 16 GB | |
DDR Memory Version | |||
DDR Memory Version | 5 | 5 | |
RAM Slots | |||
RAM Slots | 0 | 2 | |
Storage | |||
Storage | 2048 GB | 1024 GB | |
BATTERY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Battery Life | |||
Battery Life | 11 Hours | 5 Hours | |
Battery Capacity | |||
Battery Capacity | 80 Wh | 90 Wh | |
SCREEN | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Diagonal Size | |||
Diagonal Size | 17" | 16" | |
Display Technology | |||
Display Technology | IPS | IPS | |
Resolution | |||
Resolution | 2560 x 1600 | 2560 x 1600 | |
Refresh Rate | |||
Refresh Rate | 60Hz | 165Hz | |
Display Brightness | |||
Display Brightness | 353 nits | 394 nits | |
RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Build Quality Score | |||
Build Quality Score | 7/10 | 8/10 | |
Portability Score | |||
Portability Score | 8/10 | 7.2/10 | |
Gaming Laptop Appearance | |||
Gaming Laptop Appearance | No | No | |
Premium Business Laptop | |||
Premium Business Laptop | No | No | |
Fan Noise Score | |||
Fan Noise Score | 8.8/10 | 7.8/10 | |
HARDWARE FEATURES | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Keyboard Quality Score | |||
Keyboard Quality Score | 7.5/10 | 8/10 | |
Speaker Quality Score | |||
Speaker Quality Score | 7/10 | 8.8/10 | |
Webcam | |||
Webcam | 720p | 1080p | |
Fingerprint Reader | |||
Fingerprint Reader | No | Yes | |
Backlit Keyboard | |||
Backlit Keyboard | Yes | Yes | |
Number Pad | |||
Number Pad | Yes | Yes | |
CONNECTIVITY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
USB Type-A | |||
USB Type-A | 2 | 1 | |
USB-C ports | |||
USB-C ports | 2 | 2 | |
USB-C Charging | |||
USB-C Charging | Yes | Yes | |
Display Outputs | |||
Display Outputs | 3 | 2 | |
Thunderbolt Version | |||
Thunderbolt Version | 4 | 4 | |
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LG Gram 17
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Sascha Mölck | August 2022
"The LG Gram 17 is a light office laptop with a large display and great battery life. The newest incarnation of the Gram 17 can be classified as a model update. LG uses the predecessor's compact, light magnesium case along with an identical port configuration (including 2x Thunderbolt 4) and keyboard. Changes can be found in the hardware. With the Gram 17 (2022), LG offers a light (approx. 1,350 g), mobile work device - and finally with a matte display."
MSI Creator Z16P
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Mario Petzold | June 2022
"There's almost nothing left to be desired with the MSI Z16P. The creator laptop offers enormous performance resources for image editing, video editing, rendering, and more. All this is presented on a precalibrated, adequately sized, and high-resolution display. Its color space, refresh rate, and panel technology are also perfectly suited for a device that specializes in video reproduction and editing."
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About LG
LG is a South Korean conglomerate company. While LG is mainly known for various products outside of technology, LG also develops laptops. Within the laptop industry, they are known for their thin-and-light Gram series, as well as their value-oriented Ultra series. LG laptops offer very thin and light laptops with phenomenal battery life, and are often on sale.
About MSI
MSI, also known as Micro-Star International, is a Taiwanese technology corporation. MSI is known for their wide range of gaming devices. Their series include the entry-level Cyborg/Thin and Sword/Katana series, the mid-range Bravo/Delta and Crosshair/Pulse series, and their high-end Vector, Raider, Stealth, and Titan GT series. At every performance level, MSI offers a variety of devices with varying balances between performance, battery life, weight, and price, making them a solid option to consider at every price point.
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