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Updated January 10, 2024·
The Lenovo LOQ 16 is a lower midrange-priced laptop that is significantly less expensive compared to the MSI Raider GE78 which is a high-end device. If cost is a concern and you need a more portable laptop with respectable performance for general use and less intensive engineering tasks, the Lenovo would be an appropriate choice. On the other hand, if you require top-tier performance for 3D rendering, machine learning, or gaming, and are willing to invest in a more expensive machine with a heavier build and more substantial power requirements, the MSI Raider GE78 would be more suitable. The MSI also offers a larger screen, higher resolution, and significantly better overall performance but it's less portable and has a shorter battery life despite a larger battery capacity. Give Feedback
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Advantages of the Lenovo LOQ 16
- The Lenovo LOQ 16 has no clear advantages over the MSI Raider GE78.
Advantages of the MSI Raider GE78
- Very good for general use
- Excellent for engineering and design
- Best in class for gaming and AI
- Very good for software development
- Very good for content creation
- Very good overall display quality
- Very good overall build quality
- Best in class speakers
- Best in class keyboard
Key differences
General Use
7.6
8.7
1920 x 1200
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
329.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
384.0 nits
6.0 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
6.0 Hours
8.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
9.5/10
6.3/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
5.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for general use, while the Lenovo LOQ 16 is good.
The Lenovo LOQ 16 is good for general use due to its decent balance of CPU and RAM, satisfactory screen quality with a moderate size that aids portability, and an average battery life, all factors necessary for everyday tasks. In contrast, the MSI Raider GE78 is very good for general use largely because it boasts a more powerful CPU and double the RAM, a higher quality screen with a larger resolution, and superior keyboard and speaker quality, but these enhancements come at the cost of reduced portability and battery life compared to the Lenovo.
Gaming and AI
7.5
9.5
7.0/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
9.9/10
1920 x 1200
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
144Hz
REFRESH RATE
240Hz
Yes
SUPPORTS DLSS
Yes
Yes
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
Yes
7.0/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
6.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is best in class for gaming and AI, while the Lenovo LOQ 16 is good.
The MSI Raider GE78, with its higher-end Nvidia RTX 4090 graphics card and a screen refresh rate of 240Hz, is built to provide a superior gaming and 3D experience compared to the Lenovo LOQ 16, which has a Nvidia RTX 4050 GPU and a 144Hz refresh rate. While both laptops are suitable for gaming, the Raider GE78's stronger GPU and faster screen refresh rate will deliver smoother and more detailed gameplay, particularly in high-resolution or fast-paced gaming scenarios.
Engineering and Design
7.9
9.4
9.1/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
7.0/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
9.9/10
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
The MSI Raider GE78 is excellent for engineering and design, while the Lenovo LOQ 16 is good.
The Lenovo LOQ 16 is very good for engineering and design because it includes a capable AMD Ryzen CPU, sufficient RAM, and an NVIDIA RTX 4050 GPU, alongside a good quality screen, making it well-suited for various engineering tasks. However, the MSI Raider GE78 is considered excellent for these purposes due to its more powerful Intel i9 CPU, double the RAM, and a higher-end NVIDIA RTX 4090 GPU, coupled with a superior screen that offers higher resolution and brightness, although it compromises on portability and is heavier.
Content Creation
7.6
8.8
9.1/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
1920 x 1200
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for content creation, while the Lenovo LOQ 16 is good.
PerfectRec’s Content Creation Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for photo editing, video editing and other content creation tasks.
Software Development
7.5
8.5
9.1/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
1920 x 1200
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
8.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
9.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for software development, while the Lenovo LOQ 16 is good.
PerfectRec’s Software Development Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for software developers.
Screen Quality
7.2
8.6
16.0in
SIZE
17.3in
1920 x 1200
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
144Hz
REFRESH RATE
240Hz
329.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
384.0 nits
The MSI Raider GE78 has a better screen than the Lenovo LOQ 16 for general use, gaming and AI, engineering and design, content creation, and software development.
When considering a laptop for general use, the Lenovo LOQ 16's good screen quality is due to a balance of a clear display with decent brightness and resolution, making everyday tasks enjoyable, whereas the MSI Raider GE78's higher brightness and sharper resolution enhance the viewing experience even more. For engineering and design work where color accuracy is crucial, both laptops offer good screen quality with a range of colors, but the MSI's superior color gamut coverage allows for more precise color work. However, for gaming and 3D applications that demand fluid motion, both laptops fall short due to their lower refresh rates, which can lead to less smooth visuals compared to screens designed specifically for these purposes.
Portability
Fair
Poor
16.0in
SIZE
17.3in
5.7 lbs
WEIGHT
6.8 lbs
1.0in
THICKNESS
1.1in
The Lenovo LOQ 16 has only fair portability, while the MSI Raider GE78 has poor portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.
Build Quality
7.4
8.5
The MSI Raider GE78 has very good build quality, while the Lenovo LOQ 16 has good build quality.
PerfectRec’s Build Quality Score incorporates case materials, display and keyboard flex, hinge quality, and overall reliability.
Cost
$740
$4,386
$0
$1,000
$2,000
$3,000
$4,000
The Lenovo LOQ 16 has a price of $740 and the MSI Raider GE78 costs $4,386.
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Battery
6.0 Hours
6.0 Hours
The Lenovo LOQ 16 has 6 hours of battery life. The MSI Raider GE78 has 6 hours of battery life.
Battery life estimate is based on a mix of common use patterns. More portable and higher performing laptops tend to have less battery life.
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How the Lenovo LOQ 16 and the MSI Raider GE78 compare to other laptops
Spec Comparison
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| Lenovo LOQ 16 | MSI Raider GE78 |
GENERAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | |||
$740 | $4,386 | ||
Release Date | |||
Release Date | May 1, 2023 | May 1, 2023 | |
Overall Dimensions | |||
Overall Dimensions | 14.2'' x 10.9'' x 1.02'' | 15'' x 11.7'' x 1.13'' | |
Weight | |||
Weight | 5.73 lbs | 6.83 lbs | |
Width | |||
Width | 14.16" | 14.97" | |
Depth | |||
Depth | 10.92" | 11.73" | |
INTERNAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Processor | |||
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS | Intel i9-13980HX | |
RAM | |||
RAM | 16 GB | 32 GB | |
DDR Memory Version | |||
DDR Memory Version | 5 | 5 | |
RAM Slots | |||
RAM Slots | 2 | 2 | |
Storage | |||
Storage | 512 GB | 2048 GB | |
BATTERY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Battery Life | |||
Battery Life | 6 Hours | 6 Hours | |
Battery Capacity | |||
Battery Capacity | 60 Wh | 99.9 Wh | |
SCREEN | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Diagonal Size | |||
Diagonal Size | 16" | 17.3" | |
Display Technology | |||
Display Technology | IPS | IPS | |
Resolution | |||
Resolution | 1920 x 1200 | 2560 x 1600 | |
Refresh Rate | |||
Refresh Rate | 144Hz | 240Hz | |
Display Brightness | |||
Display Brightness | 329 nits | 384 nits | |
RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Build Quality Score | |||
Build Quality Score | 7.4/10 | 8.5/10 | |
Portability Score | |||
Portability Score | 6.3/10 | 5.6/10 | |
Gaming Laptop Appearance | |||
Gaming Laptop Appearance | Yes | Yes | |
Premium Business Laptop | |||
Premium Business Laptop | No | No | |
Fan Noise Score | |||
Fan Noise Score | 7/10 | 6.5/10 | |
HARDWARE FEATURES | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Keyboard Quality Score | |||
Keyboard Quality Score | 8/10 | 9.5/10 | |
Speaker Quality Score | |||
Speaker Quality Score | 6.8/10 | 9.5/10 | |
Webcam | |||
Webcam | 1080p | 1080p | |
Fingerprint Reader | |||
Fingerprint Reader | No | No | |
Backlit Keyboard | |||
Backlit Keyboard | Yes | Yes | |
Number Pad | |||
Number Pad | Yes | Yes | |
CONNECTIVITY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
USB Type-A | |||
USB Type-A | 3 | 2 | |
USB-C ports | |||
USB-C ports | 1 | 3 | |
USB-C Charging | |||
USB-C Charging | Yes | Yes | |
Display Outputs | |||
Display Outputs | 2 | 4 | |
Thunderbolt Version | |||
Thunderbolt Version | N/A | 4 | |
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Christian Hintze | September 2023
"Gaming laptops with an RTX 4060 are available starting from about 1,000 Euros (~$1,060), even in 16-inch format. For the supposedly affordable Lenovo LOQ 16 (1,500 Euros, ~$1,591), the manufacturer particularly saves in the equipment and materials compared to the more expensive Legion series. In addition, the LOQ is slightly heavier and more bulky. What remains is anything but a laptop full of difficult compromises. Instead, this is a more than solid gaming laptop that focusses on the 3D performance.Q is slightly heavier and more bulky."
MSI Raider GE78
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Allen Ngo | March 2023
"Performance-wise, the GE78 offers a significant boost over the GE77 for just slightly higher power consumption. You'll have to get the RTX 4080 or 4090 configurations to see the performance advantages, however, as the RTX 4070 is closer in performance to the older RTX 3080 Ti. In terms of design, some users might prefer the 16:9 minimalistic look of the older GE77 over the 16:10 retro-inspired GE78 and vice versa. We wouldn't call one better than the other in terms of aesthetics, but we'll give the edge to the GE78 for its stronger hinges and larger keys and clickpad."
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About Lenovo
Lenovo is a Chinese technology company, and one of the largest personal computer vendor. They are well known for a variety of technology products, including laptops. Their consumer series include their entry level IdeaPad and LOQ series and mid-to-high-end Yoga and Legion series. On the business-oriented side, their series include their entry-level ThinkBook series and mid-to-high-end ThinkPad series. Lenovo laptops offer strong performance for reasonable prices, and are often on sale.
About MSI
MSI, also known as Micro-Star International, is a Taiwanese technology corporation. MSI is known for their wide range of gaming devices. Their series include the entry-level Cyborg/Thin and Sword/Katana series, the mid-range Bravo/Delta and Crosshair/Pulse series, and their high-end Vector, Raider, Stealth, and Titan GT series. At every performance level, MSI offers a variety of devices with varying balances between performance, battery life, weight, and price, making them a solid option to consider at every price point.
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