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Updated April 10, 2024·

If you value a high-quality viewing experience in bright rooms, the Samsung QN85B with its excellent bright room performance is the better choice, and it also offers superior motion processing which is great for sports and gaming. However, if you're on a budget, the TCL S450F is much less expensive but with fair performance in various content including sports, gaming, and movies. The Samsung model has superior sound quality and is well-suited for gaming due to a very good input lag score, but it has poor contrast which can affect dark room viewing, whereas the TCL has excellent gray uniformity but overall lesser picture quality. The TCL might serve you well for casual viewing and is more affordable, but the Samsung is geared toward a premium viewing and gaming experience. Give Feedback

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Advantages of the Samsung QN85B (LCD)
  • Excellent for bright room
  • Good for dark room
  • Very good for gaming
  • Good for movies & TV
  • Good for sports
  • Very good for news, talk, & other TV
  • Very good for cartoons & animation
  • Very good for use as monitor
  • Very good motion processing
  • Good viewing angle
  • Very good reflections
Advantages of the TCL S450F (LCD)
  • The TCL S450F (LCD) has no clear advantages over the Samsung QN85B (LCD).

Key differences

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Picture Quality

7.5
QN65QN85B
65S450F
6.5
5.64/10
CONTRAST
6.428571429/10
7.5/10
COLOR VOLUME SCORE
6.3/10
miniLED FALD
PANEL TYPE
LED
IPS
PANEL SUB-TYPE
VA
The Samsung QN85B (LCD) has good picture quality, while the TCL S450F (LCD) has only fair picture quality.

Movies & TV

7.3
QN65QN85B
65S450F
6.0
5.64/10
CONTRAST
6.428571429/10
5.7/10
BLACK UNIFORMITY
9.2/10
7.5/10
UPSCALING
7.5/10
Yes
HDR10 SUPPORT
Yes
Yes
HDR10+ SUPPORT
No
No
DOLBY VISION SUPPORT
Yes
The Samsung QN85B (LCD) is good for movies & TV, while the TCL S450F (LCD) is only fair.

Sports

7.1
QN65QN85B
65S450F
6.1
8.0/10
MOTION PROCESSING
4.6/10
120Hz
REFRESH RATE
60Hz
10.0/10
INPUT LAG SCORE
10.0/10
7.5/10
UPSCALING
7.5/10
9.3/10
SDR BRIGHTNESS SCORE
6.3/10
Yes
HLG SUPPORT
Yes
The Samsung QN85B (LCD) is good for sports, while the TCL S450F (LCD) is only fair.

Gaming

8.2
QN65QN85B
65S450F
5.7
8.0/10
RESPONSE TIME SCORE
6.0/10
10.0/10
INPUT LAG SCORE
10.0/10
8.0/10
MOTION PROCESSING
4.6/10
70.0/100
GAMING LOCAL DIMMING
10.0/100
9.0/10
GAME HDR BRIGHTNESS SCORE
5.8/10
The Samsung QN85B (LCD) is very good for gaming, while the TCL S450F (LCD) is poor.

Cartoons & Animation

8.0
QN65QN85B
65S450F
6.0
7.2/10
COLOR GAMUT SCORE
5.9/10
7.5/10
COLOR VOLUME SCORE
6.3/10
9.3/10
SDR BRIGHTNESS SCORE
6.3/10
7.9/10
COLORS OUT OF THE BOX SCORE
6.6/10
7.2/10
GRAY UNIFORMITY
5.8/10
The Samsung QN85B (LCD) is very good for cartoons & animation, while the TCL S450F (LCD) is only fair.

News, Talk, & Other TV

8.2
QN65QN85B
65S450F
6.4
9.3/10
SDR BRIGHTNESS SCORE
6.3/10
7.5/10
UPSCALING
7.5/10
The Samsung QN85B (LCD) is very good for news, talk, & other TV, while the TCL S450F (LCD) is only fair.

Bright Room

9.2
QN65QN85B
65S450F
6.0
7.5/10
VIEWING ANGLE
5.1/10
9.3/10
SDR BRIGHTNESS SCORE
6.3/10
8.9/10
HDR BRIGHTNESS SCORE
5.6/10
8.9/10
REFLECTIONS SCORE
6.3/10
The Samsung QN85B (LCD) is excellent for bright room, while the TCL S450F (LCD) is only fair.

Cost

$1,199
QN65QN85B
65S450F
$400
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The Samsung QN85B (LCD) has a price of $1,199 and the TCL S450F (LCD) costs $400.
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How the Samsung QN85B (LCD) and the TCL S450F (LCD) compare to other TVs

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Spec Comparison

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Samsung QN85B (LCD)TCL S450F (LCD)
Samsung QN85B (LCD)TCL S450F (LCD)

GENERAL

Price
$1,199
$400
Brand
SamsungTCL
Release Date
March 2, 2022July 1, 2023
Full name
QN65QN85B65S450F
Screen Size
65"65"
Screen Resolution
4K4K

TV FEATURES

Operating System
TizenFire OS
Sound Quality Score
7.5/106/10
NextGen Ready
NoNo
HDMI Ports
44
Coax Ports
11

DISPLAY QUALITY SCORES

Picture Quality Score
7.6/106.6/10
Bright Room Score
9.2/106/10
Gaming Score
8.3/105.7/10
Movies & TV Score
7.3/106/10
Sports Score
7.2/106.2/10

PHYSICAL

Dimensions w/o Stand (H x W x D)
32.6" x 56.9" x 1.1"32.8" x 56.9" x 3.2"
Dimensions with Stand (H x W)
35.1" x 56.9"34.8" x 5.9"
Weight without Stand
52.2 lbs30.9 lbs
VESA Mount
400x300200 x 200

DISPLAY

Color Depth
10 bit8 bit
Black Frame Insertion
YesNo
Auto Low Latency Mode
YesYes
Contrast
5.6/106.4/10
Local Dimming
8/103/10

SOUND

Speaker Setup
2.2.22.0
Speaker Power
60 W20 W
Dolby Atmos
YesYes
DTS:X
NoNo

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What Hi-Fi?

John Archer | February 2023
"Particularly key to this is the fact that black levels are unusually good, on a level we haven’t seen from any IPS TV before. Build quality is impressive too, with a gleaming silver metallic frame and stand, and enough heft to suggest plenty of quality innards. High dynamic range content jumps off the screen with enough luminosity and intensity to really sell what makes HDR special."

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About Samsung

Samsung, a South Korean electronics manufacturer, holds the title of being the largest global TV vendor in terms of units sold. They offer a diverse lineup of TV products that cater to various budget ranges. A notable achievement in recent years is the development of Quantum Dots, a technology that enhances color reproduction, resulting in richer and more vibrant hues. Samsung TVs are well-regarded for their high manufacturing quality and user-friendly software, making them an excellent choice for consumers seeking an intuitive viewing experience.

About TCL

TCL, the highly recognizable TV brand from China, has firmly established itself as the second-largest manufacturer in terms of sales volume. Renowned for striking an impressive balance between affordability, picture quality, and design, TCL TVs deliver a compelling overall package. While they have traditionally excelled in the low-end and midrange TV segments, TCL has recently made remarkable strides in the realm of high-end televisions, introducing impressive models that rival top competitors. Most TCL TVs use Roku software which is very user friendly and easy to use, but they have a few other models that use Google TV which has the largest app selection, but is not as user friendly as Roku.

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