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Updated January 10, 2024·
The MSI Creator Z16P, being less expensive, offers good performance for general and engineering use with substantial battery life and portability. It features a touchscreen, making it versatile for creative tasks. On the other hand, the MSI Raider GE78 is more expensive but boasts superior performance for 3D, machine learning, and gaming due to a more powerful GPU and processor, alongside more RAM and storage. It lacks a touchscreen but has a higher refresh rate screen, which is better for fast-paced gaming. Note though, that it is heavier and has a bulkier power brick, making it less convenient to carry around. Give Feedback
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Advantages of the MSI Creator Z16P
- Good portability
Advantages of the MSI Raider GE78
- Very good for general use
- Excellent for engineering and design
- Best in class for gaming and AI
- Very good for software development
- Very good for content creation
- Good battery life
- Best in class speakers
- Best in class keyboard
Key differences
General Use
7.8
8.7
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
394.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
384.0 nits
5.0 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
6.0 Hours
8.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
9.5/10
7.2/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
5.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for general use, while the MSI Creator Z16P is good.
The MSI Raider GE78 is rated higher for general use than the MSI Creator Z16P because, although both have high-quality screens and are equipped with powerful CPUs and ample RAM, the Raider GE78 offers better portability and longer battery life which are vital for everyday tasks. Additionally, the Raider GE78's larger storage capacity and superior speaker quality may enhance the overall user experience for media consumption and multitasking.
Gaming and AI
7.6
9.5
7.4/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
9.9/10
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
165Hz
REFRESH RATE
240Hz
Yes
SUPPORTS DLSS
Yes
No
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
Yes
7.7/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
6.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is best in class for gaming and AI, while the MSI Creator Z16P is good.
The MSI Raider GE78 is best for gaming and 3D due to its superior Nvidia RTX 4090 GPU and higher screen refresh rate of 240, which offer cutting-edge graphics performance and smoother visuals compared to the MSI Creator Z16P's Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti and 165 refresh rate. While both have high-quality screens, the Raider GE78's stronger CPU also contributes to its top-tier gaming capabilities.
Engineering and Design
8.3
9.4
9.2/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
7.4/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
9.9/10
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
The MSI Raider GE78 is excellent for engineering and design, while the MSI Creator Z16P is very good.
The MSI Raider GE78 typically offers a more powerful CPU and GPU, alongside more RAM, which translates to faster and smoother performance in demanding engineering applications when compared with the MSI Creator Z16P; plus, it usually has a high-quality screen for precise visual work. However, the Creator Z16P, being slightly less powerful, offers greater portability and quieter operation, which makes it a better option if you need to move around a lot or work in noise-sensitive environments.
Content Creation
7.9
8.8
9.2/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for content creation, while the MSI Creator Z16P is good.
PerfectRec’s Content Creation Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for photo editing, video editing and other content creation tasks.
Software Development
7.6
8.5
9.2/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
9.9/10
16.0 GB
RAM
32.0 GB
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
8.0/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
9.5/10
The MSI Raider GE78 is very good for software development, while the MSI Creator Z16P is good.
PerfectRec’s Software Development Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for software developers.
Screen Quality
8.3
8.6
16.0in
SIZE
17.3in
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
165Hz
REFRESH RATE
240Hz
394.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
384.0 nits
The MSI Raider GE78 has a better screen than the MSI Creator Z16P for gaming and AI, content creation, and software development.
The MSI Creator Z16P and Raider GE78 offer high-resolution displays and vibrant brightness, making them suitable for general use where clarity, detail, and visibility are key. For engineering and design tasks, their wide color gamuts ensure accurate color reproduction, which is crucial when working with detailed graphics or color-sensitive projects. However, their lower refresh rates may not be ideal for gaming and 3D applications where smooth motion and rapid screen updating are critical to the experience.
Portability
Good
Poor
16.0in
SIZE
17.3in
5.2 lbs
WEIGHT
6.8 lbs
0.7in
THICKNESS
1.1in
The MSI Creator Z16P has good portability, while the MSI Raider GE78 has poor portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.
Cost
$1,300
$4,386
$500
$1,000
$1,500
$2,000
$2,500
$3,000
$3,500
$4,000
The MSI Creator Z16P has a price of $1,300 and the MSI Raider GE78 costs $4,386.
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Key similarities
Battery
5.0 Hours
6.0 Hours
The MSI Creator Z16P has 5 hours of battery life. The MSI Raider GE78 has 6 hours of battery life.
Battery life estimate is based on a mix of common use patterns. More portable and higher performing laptops tend to have less battery life.
Build Quality
8.0
8.5
The MSI Raider GE78 and MSI Creator Z16P both have very good build quality.
PerfectRec’s Build Quality Score incorporates case materials, display and keyboard flex, hinge quality, and overall reliability.
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How the MSI Creator Z16P and the MSI Raider GE78 compare to other laptops
Spec Comparison
 |  | |
| MSI Creator Z16P | MSI Raider GE78 |
GENERAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | |||
$1,300 | $4,386 | ||
Release Date | |||
Release Date | June 1, 2023 | May 1, 2023 | |
Overall Dimensions | |||
Overall Dimensions | 14.1'' x 10.2'' x 0.75'' | 15'' x 11.7'' x 1.13'' | |
Weight | |||
Weight | 5.27 lbs | 6.83 lbs | |
Width | |||
Width | 14.13" | 14.97" | |
Depth | |||
Depth | 10.18" | 11.73" | |
INTERNAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Processor | |||
Processor | Intel i9-12900H | Intel i9-13980HX | |
RAM | |||
RAM | 16 GB | 32 GB | |
DDR Memory Version | |||
DDR Memory Version | 5 | 5 | |
RAM Slots | |||
RAM Slots | 2 | 2 | |
Storage | |||
Storage | 1024 GB | 2048 GB | |
BATTERY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Battery Life | |||
Battery Life | 5 Hours | 6 Hours | |
Battery Capacity | |||
Battery Capacity | 90 Wh | 99.9 Wh | |
SCREEN | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Diagonal Size | |||
Diagonal Size | 16" | 17.3" | |
Display Technology | |||
Display Technology | IPS | IPS | |
Resolution | |||
Resolution | 2560 x 1600 | 2560 x 1600 | |
Refresh Rate | |||
Refresh Rate | 165Hz | 240Hz | |
Display Brightness | |||
Display Brightness | 394 nits | 384 nits | |
RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Build Quality Score | |||
Build Quality Score | 8/10 | 8.5/10 | |
Portability Score | |||
Portability Score | 7.2/10 | 5.6/10 | |
Gaming Laptop Appearance | |||
Gaming Laptop Appearance | No | Yes | |
Premium Business Laptop | |||
Premium Business Laptop | No | No | |
Fan Noise Score | |||
Fan Noise Score | 7.8/10 | 6.5/10 | |
HARDWARE FEATURES | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Keyboard Quality Score | |||
Keyboard Quality Score | 8/10 | 9.5/10 | |
Speaker Quality Score | |||
Speaker Quality Score | 8.8/10 | 9.5/10 | |
Webcam | |||
Webcam | 1080p | 1080p | |
Fingerprint Reader | |||
Fingerprint Reader | Yes | No | |
Backlit Keyboard | |||
Backlit Keyboard | Yes | Yes | |
Number Pad | |||
Number Pad | Yes | Yes | |
CONNECTIVITY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
USB Type-A | |||
USB Type-A | 1 | 2 | |
USB-C ports | |||
USB-C ports | 2 | 3 | |
USB-C Charging | |||
USB-C Charging | Yes | Yes | |
Display Outputs | |||
Display Outputs | 2 | 4 | |
Thunderbolt Version | |||
Thunderbolt Version | 4 | 4 | |
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Mario Petzold | June 2022
"There's almost nothing left to be desired with the MSI Z16P. The creator laptop offers enormous performance resources for image editing, video editing, rendering, and more. All this is presented on a precalibrated, adequately sized, and high-resolution display. Its color space, refresh rate, and panel technology are also perfectly suited for a device that specializes in video reproduction and editing."
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Allen Ngo | March 2023
"Performance-wise, the GE78 offers a significant boost over the GE77 for just slightly higher power consumption. You'll have to get the RTX 4080 or 4090 configurations to see the performance advantages, however, as the RTX 4070 is closer in performance to the older RTX 3080 Ti. In terms of design, some users might prefer the 16:9 minimalistic look of the older GE77 over the 16:10 retro-inspired GE78 and vice versa. We wouldn't call one better than the other in terms of aesthetics, but we'll give the edge to the GE78 for its stronger hinges and larger keys and clickpad."
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About MSI
MSI, also known as Micro-Star International, is a Taiwanese technology corporation. MSI is known for their wide range of gaming devices. Their series include the entry-level Cyborg/Thin and Sword/Katana series, the mid-range Bravo/Delta and Crosshair/Pulse series, and their high-end Vector, Raider, Stealth, and Titan GT series. At every performance level, MSI offers a variety of devices with varying balances between performance, battery life, weight, and price, making them a solid option to consider at every price point.
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