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Updated January 10, 2024·
The Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" is less expensive and offers a larger screen with a numeric keypad, longer battery life for general use, and quieter operation. However, it's less portable, and not as capable for 3D, machine learning, or engineering tasks. The MSI Summit E16 Flip is more expensive but has superior performance for intensive tasks, a higher quality display with touch functionality, and is more portable due to its smaller screen and lighter weight. It also features better build quality and a backlit keyboard, which might be important for professionals needing a more robust machine for demanding work environments or for use in low-light conditions. Give Feedback
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Advantages of the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17"
- The Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" has no clear advantages over the MSI Summit E16 Flip.
Advantages of the MSI Summit E16 Flip
- Good for engineering and design
- Very good overall display quality
- Good overall build quality
- Good speakers
- Good keyboard
Key differences
General Use
7.3
7.9
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
307.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
294.0 nits
9.0 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
8.0 Hours
6.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
7.5/10
7.1/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
7.6/10
The MSI Summit E16 Flip and Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" are both good for general use, though the MSI Summit E16 Flip is somewhat better.
The Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" offers ample screen size and a keyboard with a number pad, making it good for various general tasks, however, its portability is less due to its larger size and it has a moderate battery life to support everyday activities. The MSI Summit E16 Flip, on the other hand, provides higher performance with a better CPU and GPU, more RAM, and a higher resolution touch screen, while being more portable due to its smaller size and 2-in-1 convertible design, although this comes with a higher price point.
Gaming and AI
6.1
6.8
3.6/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
4.6/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
165Hz
No
SUPPORTS DLSS
Yes
No
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
No
9.5/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
7.0/10
The MSI Summit E16 Flip and Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" are both only fair for gaming and AI, though the MSI Summit E16 Flip is somewhat better.
The Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" is less suited for gaming and 3D as it has an integrated GPU that is not as powerful as dedicated graphics chips and a standard screen refresh rate of 60Hz, while the MSI Summit E16 Flip offers a superior Nvidia RTX 3050 Ti dedicated GPU and a higher refresh rate of 165Hz, desirable for smoother visuals in gaming and 3D applications. Additionally, the Summit E16 Flip has a better CPU and higher quality screen, enhancing overall performance and visual clarity for these purposes.
Engineering and Design
6.6
7.7
5.8/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.9/10
3.6/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
4.6/10
8.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
The MSI Summit E16 Flip is good for engineering and design, while the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" is only fair.
The Lenovo IdeaPad 3 has a mid-range processor and integrated graphics, which can handle engineering tasks decently, but may not excel in intensive design applications, whereas the MSI Summit E16 Flip offers a more powerful processor paired with a dedicated graphics card, providing better performance necessary for complex engineering software and design work. Additionally, while the IdeaPad 3 has a larger screen with a standard resolution, the Summit E16 Flip boasts a higher-resolution display which can be beneficial for detailed design tasks, although it contributes to the IdeaPad 3 being less portable and having a longer battery life.
Screen Quality
6.7
8.0
17.3in
SIZE
16.0in
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
165Hz
307.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
294.0 nits
The MSI Summit E16 Flip has a better screen than the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" for general use, gaming and AI, engineering and design, content creation, and software development.
For general use, the Lenovo IdeaPad 3's screen provides clear images and is bright enough for everyday tasks, but the MSI Summit E16 Flip's higher resolution and brightness make for a sharper and more vibrant display. The MSI Summit has superior color gamut coverage essential for accuracy in engineering and design work, giving it the edge over the Ideapad despite its adequate performance. However, both laptops' screens lack the high refresh rates crucial for smooth rendering in 3D applications and gaming, making them less suitable for those specific needs.
Portability
Good
Good
17.3in
SIZE
16.0in
4.4 lbs
WEIGHT
4.1 lbs
0.7in
THICKNESS
0.6in
The MSI Summit E16 Flip and Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" both have good portability, though the MSI Summit E16 Flip has somewhat better portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.
Build Quality
6.5
7.4
The MSI Summit E16 Flip has good build quality, while the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" has only fair build quality.
PerfectRec’s Build Quality Score incorporates case materials, display and keyboard flex, hinge quality, and overall reliability.
Cost
$784
$1,550
$0
$500
$1,000
$1,500
$2,000
$2,500
The Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" has a price of $784 and the MSI Summit E16 Flip costs $1,550.
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Key similarities
Content Creation
7.4
7.9
5.8/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.9/10
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
8.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The MSI Summit E16 Flip and Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" are both good for content creation.
PerfectRec’s Content Creation Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for photo editing, video editing and other content creation tasks.
Software Development
7.2
7.6
5.8/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
7.9/10
8.0 GB
RAM
16.0 GB
1920 x 1080
RESOLUTION
2560 x 1600
6.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
7.5/10
The MSI Summit E16 Flip and Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" are both good for software development.
PerfectRec’s Software Development Score takes into account the many different features of the laptop that make it more or less suitable for software developers.
Battery
9.0 Hours
8.0 Hours
The Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" has 9 hours of battery life. The MSI Summit E16 Flip has 8 hours of battery life.
Battery life estimate is based on a mix of common use patterns. More portable and higher performing laptops tend to have less battery life.
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How the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" and the MSI Summit E16 Flip compare to other laptops
Spec Comparison
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| Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" | MSI Summit E16 Flip |
GENERAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | |||
$784 | $1,550 | ||
Release Date | |||
Release Date | April 1, 2022 | January 1, 2023 | |
Overall Dimensions | |||
Overall Dimensions | 15.7'' x 10.8'' x 0.78'' | 14.1'' x 10.2'' x 0.66'' | |
Weight | |||
Weight | 4.49 lbs | 4.19 lbs | |
Width | |||
Width | 15.71" | 14.09" | |
Depth | |||
Depth | 10.79" | 10.18" | |
INTERNAL | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Processor | |||
Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 5625U | Intel i7-1260P | |
RAM | |||
RAM | 8 GB | 16 GB | |
DDR Memory Version | |||
DDR Memory Version | 4 | 5 | |
RAM Slots | |||
RAM Slots | 1 | 0 | |
Storage | |||
Storage | 512 GB | 1024 GB | |
BATTERY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Battery Life | |||
Battery Life | 9 Hours | 8 Hours | |
Battery Capacity | |||
Battery Capacity | 45 Wh | 82 Wh | |
SCREEN | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Diagonal Size | |||
Diagonal Size | 17.3" | 16" | |
Display Technology | |||
Display Technology | IPS | IPS | |
Resolution | |||
Resolution | 1920 x 1080 | 2560 x 1600 | |
Refresh Rate | |||
Refresh Rate | 60Hz | 165Hz | |
Display Brightness | |||
Display Brightness | 307 nits | 294 nits | |
RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Build Quality Score | |||
Build Quality Score | 6.5/10 | 7.4/10 | |
Portability Score | |||
Portability Score | 7.2/10 | 7.7/10 | |
Gaming Laptop Appearance | |||
Gaming Laptop Appearance | No | No | |
Premium Business Laptop | |||
Premium Business Laptop | No | No | |
Fan Noise Score | |||
Fan Noise Score | 9.5/10 | 7/10 | |
HARDWARE FEATURES | |||
|---|---|---|---|
Keyboard Quality Score | |||
Keyboard Quality Score | 6.5/10 | 7.5/10 | |
Speaker Quality Score | |||
Speaker Quality Score | 6/10 | 7.5/10 | |
Webcam | |||
Webcam | 720p | 1080p | |
Fingerprint Reader | |||
Fingerprint Reader | Yes | Yes | |
Backlit Keyboard | |||
Backlit Keyboard | No | Yes | |
Number Pad | |||
Number Pad | Yes | Yes | |
CONNECTIVITY | |||
|---|---|---|---|
USB Type-A | |||
USB Type-A | 2 | 2 | |
USB-C ports | |||
USB-C ports | 1 | 2 | |
USB-C Charging | |||
USB-C Charging | Yes | Yes | |
Display Outputs | |||
Display Outputs | 2 | 3 | |
Thunderbolt Version | |||
Thunderbolt Version | N/A | 4 | |
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Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17"
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Alex Iliev | December 2022
"The Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" defies expectations. Indeed, it is just a minor upgrade over last year. However, this doesn’t make the laptop any less terrific. It’s got a great performance, courtesy of the Ryzen 5x25U processors. In addition, you get a pretty good battery life. Perhaps, the 2-hour decrease in video playback, compared to last year is not great, but still, 10 hours of Web browsing and 7 hours of video playback is okay for 17-inch notebooks."
MSI Summit E16 Flip
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Sascha Mölck | October 2022
"The MSI Summit E16 Flip is a 2-in-1 laptop with pen, 16:10 display, and RTX 3050 Ti. The Summit E16 Flip is a 2-in-1 laptop from the business segment that primarily targets creative users. MSI combines a 16-inch touchscreen in the 16:10 format with a powerful midrange GPU. While the 2-in-1 laptop from MSI isn't meant for everybody, it should definitely attract some followers. The touchscreen display (2,560 x 1,600 pixels) covers the DCI-P3 color space. This is accompanied by stable viewing angles, a good color reproduction, short response times, and a good contrast level."
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About Lenovo
Lenovo is a Chinese technology company, and one of the largest personal computer vendor. They are well known for a variety of technology products, including laptops. Their consumer series include their entry level IdeaPad and LOQ series and mid-to-high-end Yoga and Legion series. On the business-oriented side, their series include their entry-level ThinkBook series and mid-to-high-end ThinkPad series. Lenovo laptops offer strong performance for reasonable prices, and are often on sale.
About MSI
MSI, also known as Micro-Star International, is a Taiwanese technology corporation. MSI is known for their wide range of gaming devices. Their series include the entry-level Cyborg/Thin and Sword/Katana series, the mid-range Bravo/Delta and Crosshair/Pulse series, and their high-end Vector, Raider, Stealth, and Titan GT series. At every performance level, MSI offers a variety of devices with varying balances between performance, battery life, weight, and price, making them a solid option to consider at every price point.
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