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Laptop 13 (2023)
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Updated January 10, 2024·

The Framework Laptop 13 is a premium, lightweight, and highly portable device with a sharp, high-resolution display, suitable for general use and light engineering tasks, with some potential for 3D work. It offers moderate battery life and a unique modular design that allows for easy upgrades and repairs. Alternatively, the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 offers a larger screen, longer battery life, and a full-size keyboard with a numeric keypad at a more affordable price, but it is bulkier, making it less ideal for travel. It may fall behind in demanding tasks but serves well for everyday activities and casual use. If high mobility and future upgradability are important, consider the Framework Laptop 13; if size and budget are your main concerns, the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 could be more appropriate. Give Feedback

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Advantages of the Framework Laptop 13 (2023)
  • Good for engineering and design
  • Good overall display quality
  • Good overall build quality
  • Very good portability
  • Very good speakers
  • Very good keyboard
Advantages of the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17"
  • The Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" has no clear advantages over the Framework Laptop 13 (2023).

Key differences

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Engineering and Design

7.3
Laptop 13 (2023)
IdeaPad 3 17"
6.6
7.8/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
5.8/10
3.7/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
3.6/10
8.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) is good for engineering and design, while the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" is only fair.

Screen Quality

7.4
Laptop 13 (2023)
IdeaPad 3 17"
6.7
13.5in
SIZE
17.3in
2256 x 1504
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
60Hz
472.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
307.0 nits
The Framework Laptop 13 has a better screen than the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" for general use, gaming and AI, engineering and design, and software development.

Battery

7.5 Hours
Laptop 13 (2023)
IdeaPad 3 17"
9.0 Hours
The Framework Laptop 13 has 7.5 hours of battery life. The Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" has 9 hours of battery life.

Portability

Very Good
Laptop 13 (2023)
IdeaPad 3 17"
Good
13.5in
SIZE
17.3in
2.9 lbs
WEIGHT
4.4 lbs
0.6in
THICKNESS
0.7in
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) has very good portability, while the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" has good portability.
The most portable laptops are small, thin, and light.

Build Quality

7.8
Laptop 13 (2023)
IdeaPad 3 17"
6.5
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) has good build quality, while the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" has only fair build quality.

Cost

$1,079
Laptop 13 (2023)
IdeaPad 3 17"
$784
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The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) has a price of $1,079 and the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" costs $784.
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Key similarities

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General Use

7.5
Laptop 13 (2023)
IdeaPad 3 17"
7.3
2256 x 1504
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
472.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
307.0 nits
7.5 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
9.0 Hours
8.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
6.5/10
8.8/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
7.1/10
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) and Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" are both good for general use.

Gaming and AI

6.3
Laptop 13 (2023)
IdeaPad 3 17"
6.1
3.7/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
3.6/10
2256 x 1504
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
60Hz
No
SUPPORTS DLSS
No
No
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
No
7.5/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
9.5/10
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) and Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" are both only fair for gaming and AI.

Content Creation

7.5
Laptop 13 (2023)
IdeaPad 3 17"
7.4
7.8/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
5.8/10
2256 x 1504
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
8.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) and Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" are both good for content creation.

Software Development

7.6
Laptop 13 (2023)
IdeaPad 3 17"
7.2
7.8/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
5.8/10
8.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
2256 x 1504
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
8.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
6.5/10
The Framework Laptop 13 (2023) and Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" are both good for software development.

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How the Framework Laptop 13 (2023) and the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" compare to other laptops

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Spec Comparison

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Framework Laptop 13 (2023)Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17"
Framework Laptop 13 (2023)Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17"

GENERAL

Price
$1,079
$784
Release Date
May 1, 2023April 1, 2022
Overall Dimensions
11.7'' x 9'' x 0.62''15.7'' x 10.8'' x 0.78''
Weight
2.95 lbs4.49 lbs
Width
11.7"15.71"
Depth
9.01"10.79"

INTERNAL

Processor
Intel i5-1340PAMD Ryzen 5 5625U
RAM
8 GB8 GB
DDR Memory Version
44
RAM Slots
21
Storage
256 GB512 GB

BATTERY

Battery Life
7.5 Hours9 Hours
Battery Capacity
55 Wh45 Wh

SCREEN

Diagonal Size
13.5"17.3"
Display Technology
IPSIPS
Resolution
2256 x 15041920 x 1080
Refresh Rate
60Hz60Hz
Display Brightness
472 nits307 nits

RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS

Build Quality Score
7.8/106.5/10
Portability Score
8.8/107.2/10
Gaming Laptop Appearance
NoNo
Premium Business Laptop
NoNo
Fan Noise Score
7.5/109.5/10

HARDWARE FEATURES

Keyboard Quality Score
8.5/106.5/10
Speaker Quality Score
8/106/10
Webcam
1080p720p
Fingerprint Reader
YesYes
Backlit Keyboard
YesNo
Number Pad
NoYes

CONNECTIVITY

USB Type-A
12
USB-C ports
21
USB-C Charging
YesYes
Display Outputs
22
Thunderbolt Version
4N/A

Shopping

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Framework Laptop 13 (2023)

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Wired

Scott Gilbertson | July 2023
"If you’re thinking of investing in your first Framework, now is the time. The kinks and rough edges have all been smoothed out and this is a very nice machine with a bright, upgradable future. The only reason I can think of to wait is the AMD model, which I’ll be sure to test as soon as I can get my hands on one."

Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17"

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Alex Iliev | December 2022
"The Lenovo IdeaPad 3 17" defies expectations. Indeed, it is just a minor upgrade over last year. However, this doesn’t make the laptop any less terrific. It’s got a great performance, courtesy of the Ryzen 5x25U processors. In addition, you get a pretty good battery life. Perhaps, the 2-hour decrease in video playback, compared to last year is not great, but still, 10 hours of Web browsing and 7 hours of video playback is okay for 17-inch notebooks."

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About Framework

Framework is a new American laptop manufacturer, specializing in modular and repairable laptops with the goals of promoting longevity and reducing electronic waste. They are a strong proponent of the right to repair movement. Framework laptops have replaceable RAM, storage, ports, keyboards, display bezels, mainboards, and more, making them a great choice for repairability-oriented individuals.

About Lenovo

Lenovo is a Chinese technology company, and one of the largest personal computer vendor. They are well known for a variety of technology products, including laptops. Their consumer series include their entry level IdeaPad and LOQ series and mid-to-high-end Yoga and Legion series. On the business-oriented side, their series include their entry-level ThinkBook series and mid-to-high-end ThinkPad series. Lenovo laptops offer strong performance for reasonable prices, and are often on sale.

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