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Gram 17
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GF65 Thin
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Advantages of the LG Gram 17
  • Good for general use
  • Good for engineering and design
  • Good for software development
  • Very good for content creation
  • Good overall display quality
  • Good overall build quality
  • Excellent battery life
  • Good speakers
Advantages of the MSI GF65 Thin
  • The MSI GF65 Thin has no clear advantages over the LG Gram 17.

Key differences

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General Use

7.9
Gram 17
GF65 Thin
6.5
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
323.0 nits
DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS
262.0 nits
12.5 Hours
BATTERY LIFE
4.5 Hours
7.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
7.0/10
7.9/10
PORTABILITY SCORE
7.3/10
The LG Gram 17 is good for general use, while the MSI GF65 Thin is only fair.

Engineering and Design

7.3
Gram 17
GF65 Thin
6.7
5.5/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
4.6/10
3.7/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
6.1/10
16.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
The LG Gram 17 is good for engineering and design, while the MSI GF65 Thin is only fair.

Content Creation

8.0
Gram 17
GF65 Thin
6.8
5.5/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
4.6/10
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
16.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
The LG Gram 17 is very good for content creation, while the MSI GF65 Thin is only fair.

Software Development

7.7
Gram 17
GF65 Thin
6.3
5.5/10
OVERALL CPU SCORE
4.6/10
16.0 GB
RAM
8.0 GB
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
7.5/10
KEYBOARD QUALITY SCORE
7.0/10
The LG Gram 17 is good for software development, while the MSI GF65 Thin is only fair.

Screen Quality

7.2
Gram 17
GF65 Thin
6.8
17.0in
SIZE
15.6in
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
IPS
DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
IPS
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
144Hz
323.0 nits
BRIGHTNESS
262.0 nits
The LG Gram 17 has a better screen than the MSI GF65 Thin for general use, engineering and design, software development, and content creation, while the MSI GF65 Thin has a better screen for gaming and AI.

Battery

12.5 Hours
Gram 17
GF65 Thin
4.5 Hours
The LG Gram 17 has 12.5 hours of battery life. The MSI GF65 Thin has 4.5 hours of battery life.

Portability

Good
Gram 17
GF65 Thin
Good
17.0in
SIZE
15.6in
2.9 lbs
WEIGHT
4.1 lbs
0.7in
THICKNESS
0.8in
The LG Gram 17 and MSI GF65 Thin both have good portability, though the LG Gram 17 has somewhat better portability.
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Key similarities

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Gaming and AI

6.3
Gram 17
GF65 Thin
6.8
3.7/10
OVERALL GPU SCORE
6.1/10
2560 x 1600
RESOLUTION
1920 x 1080
60Hz
REFRESH RATE
144Hz
No
SUPPORTS DLSS
Yes
No
MUX SWITCH / ADVANCED OPTIMUS
No
10.0/10
FAN NOISE SCORE
6.5/10
The MSI GF65 Thin and LG Gram 17 are both only fair for gaming and AI.

Build Quality

7.0
Gram 17
GF65 Thin
6.7
Although they have very similar scores, PerfectRec considers LG Gram 17 to have good build quality, while the MSI GF65 Thin has only fair build quality.

Cost

$1,095
Gram 17
GF65 Thin
$1,100
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The LG Gram 17 has a price of $1,095 and the MSI GF65 Thin costs $1,100.

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How the LG Gram 17 and the MSI GF65 Thin compare to other laptops

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Spec Comparison

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LG Gram 17MSI GF65 Thin
LG Gram 17MSI GF65 Thin

GENERAL

Price
$1,095
$1,100
Release Date
October 1, 2021January 1, 2021
Overall Dimensions
15'' x 10.2'' x 0.7''14.1'' x 10'' x 0.85''
Weight
2.98 lbs4.1 lbs
Width
14.97"14.13"
Depth
10.24"9.99"

INTERNAL

Processor
Intel i7-1165G7Intel i5-10500H
RAM
16 GB8 GB
DDR Memory Version
44
RAM Slots
02
Storage
1024 GB512 GB

BATTERY

Battery Life
12.5 Hours4.5 Hours
Battery Capacity
80 Wh51 Wh

SCREEN

Diagonal Size
17"15.6"
Display Technology
IPSIPS
Resolution
2560 x 16001920 x 1080
Refresh Rate
60Hz144Hz
Display Brightness
323 nits262 nits

RELIABILITY, APPEARANCE & ACOUSTICS

Build Quality Score
7/106.8/10
Portability Score
8/107.4/10
Gaming Laptop Appearance
NoYes
Premium Business Laptop
NoNo
Fan Noise Score
10/106.5/10

HARDWARE FEATURES

Keyboard Quality Score
7.5/107/10
Speaker Quality Score
7/106.8/10
Webcam
720p720p
Fingerprint Reader
YesNo
Backlit Keyboard
YesYes
Number Pad
YesNo

CONNECTIVITY

USB Type-A
22
USB-C ports
22
USB-C Charging
YesNo
Display Outputs
31
Thunderbolt Version
4N/A

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LG Gram 17

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Sascha Mölck | August 2022
"The LG Gram 17 is a light office laptop with a large display and great battery life. The newest incarnation of the Gram 17 can be classified as a model update. LG uses the predecessor's compact, light magnesium case along with an identical port configuration (including 2x Thunderbolt 4) and keyboard. Changes can be found in the hardware. With the Gram 17 (2022), LG offers a light (approx. 1,350 g), mobile work device - and finally with a matte display."

MSI GF65 Thin

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Allen Ngo | March 2021
"The MSI GF65 Thin offers a GeForce RTX 3060 on a budget. The MSI GF65 is a relatively inexpensive RTX 3060 laptop and, perhaps not coincidentally, it also comes with a slower-than-average RTX 3060 GPU. Other laptops we've tested thus far with the same GPU are about 10 to 15 percent faster. CPU performance is also slightly slower than average unless if users decide to enable Cooler Boost mode. Colors, black-white response times, Thunderbolt, and DisplayPort are either average or completely omitted. Gamers who want to maximize performance-per-dollar without sacrificing RAM or SSD upgradeability will find the lightweight MSI GF65 attractive."

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About LG

LG is a South Korean conglomerate company. While LG is mainly known for various products outside of technology, LG also develops laptops. Within the laptop industry, they are known for their thin-and-light Gram series, as well as their value-oriented Ultra series. LG laptops offer very thin and light laptops with phenomenal battery life, and are often on sale.

About MSI

MSI, also known as Micro-Star International, is a Taiwanese technology corporation. MSI is known for their wide range of gaming devices. Their series include the entry-level Cyborg/Thin and Sword/Katana series, the mid-range Bravo/Delta and Crosshair/Pulse series, and their high-end Vector, Raider, Stealth, and Titan GT series. At every performance level, MSI offers a variety of devices with varying balances between performance, battery life, weight, and price, making them a solid option to consider at every price point.

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